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the music wasnt good enough for me you have disappointed me duke of the forums
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Complainers…
Fine here’s the good version:
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Dea Xenos,
Queen need to stop frontlining. Stay on ovi or play Ravager.
There’s a few Queens who can roll marines when they frontline, and want everyone to follow them but… just get Leader if you want people to follow you…
If a Hive Leader sees a flank that can be executed, then hivemind it, or if it’s not a massive outflank, then just do it…
Queen just “attacking” doesn’t promote the teamwork required for the xeno side.
Many players complain about “death ball” strategies; nothing is more “Death Ball” than Queen as point-man.
I refuse to create player/whitelist reports, and I won’t name names, but I am positive you know who are the biggest critiques of people that speak out against deployed Queens. These are the players that often Ravager++ and frontline 9/10 times they spawn as Queen on round start.
My two main criticisms about deployed Queens are as follows:
- Tunnel Vision
- It’s all about the Protag Queen.
Most, like 80% of the time a Queen de-ovis, ESPECIALLY ON FIRST DROP… the front collapses due to the most basic lack of situational awareness. The Queen is all about what she gets to screech that she forgets that “oh yeah, the marines can flank and kill everyone else.”
Otherwise, it’s all about the Queen.
“The Queen ran off to the other side of the map.”
“The Queen is incapacitated.”
“The Queen has been SADAR’d.”
“The Queen called a retreat and is already back at the Hive, but 2 minutes later, here’s the announcement.”
“We are hijacking, but the Queen de-ovi’d, so I guess if you need to evolve, tough luck.”
I personally have no problem with Queens frontlining IF they assume leadership roles.
Leadership is not about how many kills you get, but instead about telling other people to get a lot of kills.
Too often Queens de-ovi themselves when they have 3, 4 or even FIVE Xeno Leaders.
If you have Xeno Leaders, deploy them… INTO A LEADERSHIP ROLE.
Queen is a support branch of the Xeno Hive, not the killer supreme role. Restrictions to who can leave the Hive should IMO be put in place.
For example, one time I was Queen, and had 4 Xeno Leaders. I chose to deploy 2 Xeno Leaders. They were to focus on communicating with their respective Xenos.
Some bad flanks had them eliminated, so, graciously, I promoted QRD2, who was Hivelord, into a leadership position. Not for combat, but for more immediate and reliable ground information.
She assumed and took that role very well.
I know I goof on QRD2 a lot, and I will stop. I know a lot of you think she sucks at Queen, but she took the role well, and played as a leader, not a fragger, and we did very well that operation because the leadership roles played leadership roles. This is why I am certain QRD2 is well regarded in the Xeno community. In addition to her ability to maintain a roleplay standard in her announcements.
I’m almost inclined to suggest that Queen should be incapable of de-ovi’ing.
Having personally been a fan of eusocial insect species, species like the imported red fire ant don’t have their Queen do all the hunting, but rather all the workers. Similar to CM, the Queen lays eggs.
Sure, yeah, okay if the opposition broke into the Hive, yeah, the Queen should probably fight them. But for the survival of the hive, it was more important to be laying eggs than hunting as a Queen.
Hence why many species of ants have evolved such that the Queen cannot perform many tasks at all.
Locking Queen de-ovis to hijack explicitly, or even taking away the snowflake Screech and Neurospit or whatever it’s called to Crusher might make more sense just to remove the temptation of protag-gameplay to someone with massive restrictions on speed.
So in summary:
-Queens de-ovi way too much.
-When Queen de-ovi’s, everyone under their command suffers.
-If a Queen de-ovi’s, he must be closer to a last resort deployment, and should probably be requested by someone else to be deployed. Otherwise, the Queen should have others fight for her.
-Hive Leaders should maybe not frontline so they can assume their leadership responsibilities instead of fragging temptations.
-Perhaps Queen should NOT have snowflake abilities. Having the snowflake construction is more okay with me since it’s less… “combat-capable,” and is more suited to last resort defense.
Anyway… coping and seething.
Lemme hear how the situational awareness wouldn’t have been different with a Queen being in the Hive instead of on the battlefield where there’s no fallback resin structs, and everyone dies to a mediocre flank for someone that aspired to be the ultimate leader but chooses to be a snowflake Ravager.
I don’t think anything will change, so acid goop section. Copy/pasta intensifies.
Maybe literally anyone from the Queen cabal will have thoughts.
I don’t need to hear them. I just ask that perhaps you spend 5 minutes on mine.
Thanks!
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hey you arent supposed to be here
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Thought this section was also locked to 1 hour replies.
So… you still haven’t really explained why you don’t just play SL besides that you want all squads to follow you instead of 1.
Additionally, why not just deploy without a rifle/armor? (Ignoring cold/snow maps)
AFAIK Uniform is all that’s required for SOP.
If you think you can achieve all this leadership with this, why bother PFC++ing in addition?
Rounds to me feel like they’re stolen when I see CO in Kill Fun Facts. Like we have 4 specs, 4 SG, and real “killer” RFN in the game, but CO has the protag gun and still gets fun facts.
Why not do the leadership without the glory for the people playing RFN, etc?
Also, I know YOU can win matches no problem. Hence my “all about the CO” section.
Most CO/XO that deploy can definitely not do what you do.
This is a team game, so having CO deploy of his own volition, then just go ahead and be doing everything feels like it’s taking over too much imo.
In my OP, the problem is not so much about the CO being on the battlefield, but being a PFC++ on the battlefield. I think it’s difficult for CO to deploy and not PFC++.
Often when I play ops with you as CO the question of “where is the CO?” comes down to “where are the dead xenos?” because it looks to me like you’re just fighting and radioing in where you are killing everything.
Steamrolling however you do it is less fun for people not being the one’s “in the fight.” So the round feels stolen.
Lead, or fight, but not both is my TL;DR request for CO Council to change to.
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my bad
Armor is a necessity for drip. Rifle.. sometimes the marines need to be shown by example. An unarmed officer cannot lead by example, nor lead any charge. You then also don’t particularly have anything to defend yourself with.
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fr. I know…
Armor is a necessity for drip. Rifle.. sometimes the marines need to be shown by example. An unarmed officer cannot lead by example, nor lead any charge. You then also don’t particularly have anything to defend yourself with
Dress blues for CO PR incoming
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obligatory so i dont seem biased:
I’m a QRD2 lover. I’m a hydro hive supporter. I’m a Prime Empress superfan. I love QRD2, I always back up QRD2. I play drone so I can pocket phero QRD2 and keep her dosed on resin fruits at all times. One time QRD2 gave me a jelly for saving her from being SADARed and that was the moment I knew that I would dedicate the rest of my career to helping QRD2 be CM’s no. 1 frontline hiver!
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hello non fragger, CO have access to very useful tools that can’t be achieved by SLs, you could run around the front trying to rally everyone (usually 3 people follow you) or you can make an announcement and everyone follows you 
also not bringing CO gun literally encourages MORE PFCing because its literally an mk1 with optional IFF, everything else is the same stats wise, so you would need to spend more time infront of other marines, rather in the middle
BTW TOPFRAG MEANS NOTHING WHEN EVERYONE ELSE IS NOOBS WHO CADEHUG WHILE BRINGING M79 SLUGS AND AN 88 MOD
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If they deploy or not is not against rules. It is a CIC/shipside role, but it does not really matter that much. If they are allowed, they can.
Queen deovi I have way more issue with. Global phero is gone. cant use tacmap, cant evo. And if she dies, well forget hivemind and any map control. If CO dies, nothing happends at all, “global announcement: He died and we need to revange!” thats it, comms still work. everyone can still continue whatever they did because of other cic members,
If CIC was ruled to be shipside only, no buff nor changes would happen. next day would be the same as all others.
If Queen was forced rule wise to be OVI. There would be a massive storm of xeno PR buffs happen, a round is more about queen than the xenos most times. But i would love to see it happen, many weeks just suddenly forced queen ovi and then balance all the other xeno players/castes up to handle it. Queen would have less fun (one person) But all the rest of the xenos would actually have more fun. would take months but hell yeah, im in.
@Ugnip55 does his role good, he do it good in frontline and all the good RP we need to see. He cares about the one who dies groundside. And he make everyone line up at the end so people can take a screenshot every time. And he gives medals. Not to the usual ones, but the random ones he noticed. All he does is to make the game more fun for everyone. Queen on the other this is not unusual to hear. " GET HERE! WHERE ARE YOU! HERE IS ONLY 2! GET HERE OR I CALL QM" yeah. I love my harsh queens but damn, I love my Dafoe too
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FWIW this is what the queen rework seems to be moving towards, limiting queen’s time off ovi and removing screech in favor of AOE combat abilities
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RE: Dear CO Council
No.
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you guys murdered a dude making a shitpost
poor guy
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You posted cringe
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Salmon Jack was BE by Joe Dafoe. Joe Dafoe for Field Marshal of the USCM.