lambinatore - Player Report: Hansen Walter , Rule 10(hostile factions), Possibly Rule 5
What’s your BYOND key?
lambinatore
Round ID:
26071
Your character name:
Baltasar Borkenov
Accused character name:
Hansen Walter
What rule(s) were broken?:
Rule 10(hostile factions), Possibly Rule 5
Description of the incident:
I decided to write this report after talking in DMs with Steelpoint.
This round was a HvH one, where the UPP clash with the USCM. I had ahelped and Steelpoint responded, but since the round was ending he suggested to me to write a proper report.
My hope after the end of this report is to have this situation made more clear for future HvH events.
During the end of the round, the USCM was sieging the UPP FOB, i unaware of that decided to return to my previous posting in the FOB to assist with medical care.
After landing, the situation was very chaotic and Hansen Walter wearing civilian clothings decided to run inside the ship. After stopping him inside the cockpit, i asked him to indentify himself, and exit the cockpit of the UPP Dropship.
In responce, he tried to stall and started taking a couple of step back from me.
After seeing that no UPP MPs were near my, i decided to cuff him for the safety of everyone on the ship. This was done so mainly for two reasons, first he rushed into the cockpit of the ship, second since he had no ID and we had no reports of Civilians in the Area this seemed a bit strange.
I want to note that i did not try to chase him, nor i wanted him to forcefully come with us, i just wanted him detained if he intedend on coming into our ship.
After an attempt at cuffing, he moved back and after a short dialogue, he extracted a pistol and started shooting. To cover for his retreat he decided to use an UPP nade into the entreance of our DS. Instead of escaping he just rushed to the other door and did the same.
Fortunately we had no major injuries, but this was a strange incident, and since chainging into a different faction uniform is not allowed, i though this is also the case, prompting me into filing an ahelp.
Round ended shortly after.
Why Rule 10 (hostile factions)?
Mainly for reason that and i quote the section of the rule “You have not changed into a uniform which obscures your allegiance” by changing into civilian clothing he obscured his allegiance, and by talking and interacting with me he was not consistently hostile. By throwing a grenade and shooting at us he broke the lethal force rule.
Why Rule 5?
During HvH changing into a UPP uniform as a Marine, or changing into a USCM Uniform as a UPP Soldier is not allowed mechanically. UPP is not allowed to strip and change into civilian clothes mechanically since survs are part of the USCM sphere of factions, or at least a couple of events ago it was mechanically impossible to do so.
The same should be for the USCM. I did put a question mark since this may possibly be an oversight on the PR side.
Why a player report?
My main focus for this report, more than punishing the player, which i think did not act in bad faith, is to have better rules or a variant of this rules for the HvH events, and to avoid this kinds of grey areas.
Evidence:
logs