Petition to make round end if last xeno is either a runner or a lurker.
The fact that you can have situations where everyone has to sit around for 15 minutes waiting for a lost round to end is obnoxious and pointless. Xenos hate it, marines hate it, remove it.
Hivemind collapse is a thing.
And admins do usually do some busing if the xeno is just hiding. IIRC vent crawling eventually triggers it as well?
Also last alive benos donât get to heal IIRC.
There was a recent change that gives the last xenomorph alive a full-heal, makes them unable to heal, and tells them to go fight: Last xeno is unable to heal/rest, gets fullhealed and told to fight by private-tristan ¡ Pull Request #9936 ¡ cmss13-devs/cmss13
But as Mist wrote, if a xenomorph is excessively dragging things out, its not uncommon for staff to ânudgeâ the xeno to be more aggressive.
If they want to be a good sport, climbing into a tunnel or vent makes them count as dead for round-end purposes, so they can hop in for 5 seconds and then exit, the game will auto-end.
If we spread the information about the last statement, maybe there will be alot less of delay-liens as well.
people dont want to die as xeno because its permanent, when thereâs no hive to fall back on its even doubly so: give them a DoT effect that can only be stopped by damaging marines
Keep in mind thereâs also an artificial delay before round end triggers after the last xeno is killed, seems to be 3 minutes according to the code Marine Major announcement delay ¡ Pull Request #3118 ¡ cmss13-devs/cmss13 ¡ GitHub . From the marine perspective I think that can make it feel like xenos are delaying longer than they actually are, especially if nobody in command announces that the last xeno has been killed and youâre still running around looking for them.
Imo you could just make it so the round end delay timer starts as soon as thereâs only 1 xeno left. If the xeno delays for long enough then as soon as they die the round end would just trigger since the delay timer has already been filled. Or something like that. Would save everyone 3 minutes in the case of delayliens
Tunneling definitely triggers round end (starts the 3 minute delay anyway), not sure about vent crawling though. Edit: Oh wait Steelpoint mentioned venting works as well, I trust thatâs true then.
When the disparity in numbers between marines:xenos or vice versa is over like 20:1 just end the round. We donât need to play âhunt the runnerâ for 10 minutes anymore than xeno players need to play âhunt the cargotechâ for 10 minutes on hijack.
Yes, hivemind collapse is a thing. However when everyone has already sat around watching queen get chased and tunnel for 10 minutes when its just them and like, a drone vs 50 marines, it feels like ages.
Also, ive had rounds (Which auctually is what prompted me to make this) where the round-end huggeds burst and go queen BEFORE hive collapse hits, resulting in them going queen and reseting the timer.
We dont count shipside xenos for roundend because they are a lost cause, why do we count Young Runner xx-121 in the bottom corner of the map?
It doesnât reset the timer and they literally cannot heal.
Just shoot em. Forcefully ending the round is crazy. Doubly so when we ignore marines doing the same shit on hijack
Why do you feel the need to shave off a few minutes at the end when rounds are already so short? Again maybe this is just me being PvE brained but it doesnât feel like a consequential amount of time, head back to FOB, get some RP in, get some of your wounds treated, collapse onto the couch in medbay oh, right, they got rid of that didnât they, uuuuuuuh go sleep in the bunks?
5 mins of âroleplayâ after last xeno death, followed by 3 mins for mapvote, followed by 2 mins for server reset. Last xeno not being able to heal is already lame. If youâre mad at endround delay, get rid of the 5 mins of ârpâ (where most people actually just afk or sit around or commit eorg or magdump the queenâs corpse for 4 straight minutes).
And for the people who support the 5 mins of roleplay, why not let last xeno play a bit longer while everyone else gets to have fun RPing? Why is round delayed for a handful of shipside people to have fun and keep playing, but if itâs a xeno they gotta be abombed ASAP just for round to be delayed anyways?
Correct me if Iâm wrong but isnât hive collapse 5 minutes without a queen anyways? Why donât we just let round end the second hive collapses, gives people time to RP, and last xenos to maybe get a few frags in.
Solaris ridge runner my beloathed !
When are we obliterating delayrines though? Middledeck made hijack hide-and-seek more miserable than ever.
It would be cool to add to the PR if not yet fully merged; to not consider face-huggers as alive xenos too. Because either hugging someone or not, it wonât make a difference right?
I think the last bug should actually be empowered. Itâs a great show to watch them run like rats in a maze to survive just a little longer and unless theyâre a Queen then hivemind collapse ends it afterwards anyway. So why not?
Can confirm I am consistently A bombed for being too good
I enjoy it, could give xenos a tracker like the SL/queen tracker that activates when marines are few enough to appear on the tac map.