Hey! How about we put this to rest? No, COs are not going to be made slaves to the meta. All that’s asked of you is that if you decide to do an off-meta plan you be prepared for it to go wrong.
Insisting upon carrying out a paradrop deployment after the Scout/Squad responsible for dropping a flare or lase dies will get you looked at. Insisting upon a split drop after all of Bravo has already died in the FOB will get you looked at. Immediately abandoning the ship alone during hijack and leaving the marines basically leaderless will get you looked at.
You are expected to display a level of competence as CO, failure to do so within reason is going to be an issue. Hope that helps!
No, I don’t get it why you don’t get it. Matters what CO/command ordered, not what he did not, or that he didn’t change his plans.
It was those X people on Delta fault, not CO. Lets assume that such round happens and somebody does report CO, so a councillor checks the logs. CO ordered something, marines disobeyed and they died. How he can connect that to CO? It is all about CO/command not doing shitty strats over and over, not about their small singular decision. Split drop is a major pre-drop strategy, ordering to fix comms, or not changing your plans to accomodate whatever rogue marines came up is a minor decision during heat of a battle.
Now we have to assume that the same people will play during the same round as CO and will always disobey orders and will always report CO for not changing his plans. When this gonna happen? When a collection of people will consistently disobey orders and try to force their will on the same CO over a span of a couple rounds?
Where is there a direct decision made by CO/command for those marines to not have support, or to do this suicide flank? There is none, they disobeyd CO/command, that is all, where is there CO fault even under the most strict rules against “creativity”?
This is a non-issue that would have never have happened. I want to write it once again to help folks better understand: Your “what if” scenario is a couple of marine players happen to play rounds under the same CO/command and happen to disobey orders, going their own route, getting wiped in the process and reporting CO for not changing his plans to support them, all of that under a “strict” rule of not doing stupid “off-meta” strategies like split-drop and such over and over.
No.
No.
NOOOO! WHY ARE YOU RESTRICTING CO’S CREATIVITY? PREPARED FOR SOMETHING TO GO WRONG? BE LOOKED AT FOR OFF-META STRAT OF EVACING ALONE?
Kinda what I am saying already, but guess who will be attacked for this.
I do find it funny that abandoning ship at hijack alone will get you looked at since i remember one councillor said a year ago that you can abandon ship or cryo if you dont wanna suffer hijack, i guess rules change with councillors. I do hate that i cannot leave the ship if i dont wanna suffer the slop thats hijack and risk my whitelist if i do.
I think theres a difference between not wanting to go through Hijack and cryoing, and waiting for Hijack to happen, telling Marines to hold a specific location, then jumping on a Escape Pod/CL Pod and dipping. Once is funny, every single round thats a loss is wild.
Damn, can’t even roleplay being a coward anymore. Smh. I don’t remember leaving the Almayer leaderless either when I evacuated.
Jokes aside, if there is a form of leadership shipside such as the XO or ASO, I don’t see why we would punish COs for not wanting to endure hijack or further develop their character in the ERT station. Seems like a change that is unnecessary if you ask me.
I assume you guys are talking about the round I mentioned- Technically there was an XO who was left shipside, but honestly they talked so little I actually didn’t know he was alive the entire time until he finally announced something shipside after we had basically already won, so technically we weren’t actually left leaderless. Apparently he was in the ARC the entire time. No one was ordered to hold briefing, that was mostly just a random marine shouting it, and everyone else shrugging. Hijack was mostly just individual marines taking the initiative rather than any actual CoC present.
This round would be about an week old by now though, so it’s entirely possible I’m misremembering things. The round ID was 24021, so you can go check the LRC or something.
LZ2 LV and Solaris ridge would be still rotting today if not for “griefing” COs/XOs. It made people get used to the map instead of doing the same metastrats.
People are losing because they are unwilling to learn the layout/something new.
