Jesus fuck, I didn’t think it was that bad. Like good that its happening, but holy shit.
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It’s a mixed bag. Who’s gonna replace the current council? Us, the people in da synth whitelist. Most of us probably don’t have that much of an interest in being councillors, or any ideas towards how to change the whitelist, its a demanding thing to be a whitelist councillor in regards to effort and time. I have hope but y/k, it’s iffy.
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It’s specifically forbidden in the guidelines to ignore medical duties on Delta. I think we’re maybe talking about different things?
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except for Westrover… for some reason.
Not a dig at west. Just why only hin
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Bancrose has done it.
I think this thread can probably be locked by moderation now, and the new senator can speak on anything like their plans in here if they want.
Clearly change is what Management desires and by god I’m excited for it.
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I think you should wait and see if anything actually changes, it could be for the better or worse.
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Look who’s recently got added as well.
Lago who was previously a synth councillor, now look i got nothing against lago but if they were previously part of the synth council about august, at about the same time as when the fiasco with Frogzeke (Synth Council member who apparently was telling synths to keep an in-game bug a secret from devs so they could abuse it) how do we know that there’ll be any REAL changes you get me?
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I have faith there will be real change because Stalkerino is extremely competent, and with Bancrose under someone who is active unlike Fort I am sure he can get more done.
All eyes are on synthetic, and based on chatter in synthetic channels this was basically a unanimous management choice. The Town Hall will have more information I’m sure.
The reality is that 6 months ago, roughly. Predator was in a state of imminent removal, and was absolutely rancid. Now it is in an incredible state, literally never in the history of that WL has it been this good, and it was under stalkerino that it got that way.
I have faith in the new overseer, new council heads and in Bancrose to steer it the right way.
It’s either that, or synthetics will face the ultimatum of removal like predators did.
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I personally believe that there are some overstatements right here.
- While I am not questioning stalkerino’s competence (despite of me yapping about them at times - I think they are pretty cool!) - there are inherent issues with predator whitelist which are impossible to remove, at least from the perspective of an outsider. This role still remains largely an irrelevant-to-the-round annoyance with little incentive to interact with, just with better defined policies.
- I can not be aware of the entire synthetic ccouncil situation due to neither being a councilor nor being a synth, but from my personal view - this drastic move of council removal is rather questionable and more of a “desperate attempt” to fix things.
- Server as a whole is facing a weird identity crysis for YEARS now between pure TDM and desire for people to have more RP here. You have 3 WLs with relatively serios requirements for story writing and behaviour, yet the environment WL roles exist within actively discourages RP in the first place. Its not just synth, really - CO is also kind of a similar thing in some regards. Sure, you can fuck off from OP and let XO handle the job entirely, but that rarely happens. Plus - lots of COs deploy to be powergamey PFCs+++ (Shouting “CHARGE” and forward at times for it to not be deemed as just deploying to shoot).
- Crysis of support roles mechanically. Know what doctors are doing on Almayer? They exist only to grind chemline for first 20 minutes of the round. Then - they become larva removal bots, with all other surgeries easily handled by a single FOB doctor. Don’t let me start on the shipside engineering - it was irrelevant for years.
In conclusion - there is chance synthetic WL will change, but with most synths supporting the current mindset (which is not necessarily as bad as some people make it here to be) - it will largely be a change to appease specific loudest groups of people.
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Something happened??!? WTF???
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I have, to my surprise been ascended to synthetic council. I did not apply, it was offered to me in the regime change.
I hope that people can trust, based on this thread and my strong, outspoken opinions that change will happen by god. I’m going to be pushing every day. Within minutes of access to the council discord I dropped a manifesto of things I want done, my momentum will not stop.
Things are happening, big things.
Stay tuned.
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I know I am late to the party but I think it would be cool/interesting to mechanically/by rules discourage min-maxing as a synth. I’d love to see synths being something else rather than simply a surgery machine. Like you should be able to do surgery, but I think you should not be forced to do surgeries all the time, you should have a good reason to just not fix fracs of every PFC you see. You should be not only allowed, but I think even encouraged to play sub-optimal.
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this is the goal of most of the synth players as well, ideally a compromise of mechanical and policy tweaks to get us there.
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New management coming in and instantly dumping the entire old system before they even understand how it works is a common problem.
I dislike your idea of lowering synthetic hp… when xenos already aim for us and game for synths hard. I think you would have to raise up our acid resistance at minimum… or we would die to a few spits.
Im also opposed to the removal of surgery skills… but I can understand why. Its no fun being a mobile bone setter for the whole round.
Hesitantly optimistic based on what Ive seen with predlist.
Worried we are going to pull a “techweb” and removal an okay system for the hopes of a great one that is never finished because you leave or people burn out.
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Then try not to be in a position where you get mauled by xenos like every other player has to. SADARs and other specs are ‘gamed’ for hard as well and they dont have the durability and no pain crit that synths do. Not being a walking tank shouldn’t ruin the game unless you’re abusing synth tankiness by frontlining, go use that gimmick and RP! The exception to this is synthvivor but then don’t play a survivor role and act surprised that there’s a higer risk of death.
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L take tbh
SADARs are gamed on hard because they actively can murderize any xenomorph in their vicinity and pose an active threat, especially given stuff like OT buffs. SADAR is bullied because he bullies everyone else in town on the other side.
Synths pose an extreme annoyance for benos on the other hand, as they can’t stand any target stun based-combat doesnt work on. Essentially - most points I’ve seen from active xenomorphs players is about them being “played on” by synthetics, which is bad and shouldn’t happen in their view. I mean - I am no person with synth WL, but this just sounds very silly to me.
Removing surgery skills is just STUPID also. Imagine a single FOB doctor being superior to a synthetic. You can’t force RP on the entire WL without changing the environment around them. In fact, from outsider’s perspective - the current synth manifesto sounds like something to make synthetic feel so miserable in most grounside activities that you are forced to “roleplay” instead.
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I think the funny part is that they were the only person not to join that discord (everyone else from council was in that discord). You should probably check on your “facts” before talking, especially when it can ruin someone’s reputation. But you’re free to theorize and gossip, after all this is just a glorified highschool no?
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I believe that one of the main grips of Xenomorph players as one myself (I play on both sides and my marine hours are vastly higher than the former), is that the game exists independent of Whitelists. Sure a robust CO with AP rounds in their M46C and the Mateba or using an SG can make a huge difference, but to see a CO deployed and fighting on the fronts is a rare sighting and they are still a human.
For Predators it is the same stuff, sometimes it so happens they may affect round balance by going on a rampage recovering equipment on the Almayer, or becoming infected by the Xenos, then again rare.
Now Synths, whenever Xenos win their half of the round and make marines evacuate they have to deal with two to three murdering machines that more often than not literally make them lose, it is pretty much not balanced, you are trusted with a support roleplaying Whitelist and I guess you get the leeway to ruin an entire faction’s hard fought victory, that’s certainly frustrating.
To a much lesser degree that happens groundside, you are fighting in a chokehold as a Xeno, marines behind cades, as both sides fight valiantly to take on the other’s position. Xenos score well earned kills and marines refuse to push, then poof, there goes a hero Synthetic without any support or cover rushing out of the barricades to secure all the bodies.
If the marines themselves aren’t pushing to recover, why should a Synthetic push? Marines are the fighting force of their side, you have corpsmen and riflemen for that. Then a factor that is not accounted in balance properly goes out rushing and saves the day and undermines all their efforts without any counter.
Same if a Synthetic is alone recovering bodies on the backlines, where’s your support? One thing is walking with marines and lurkers kill all of them, another is walking alone on the backlines looking for bodies as an excuse to engage such lurkers when they, surprise, attack you.
Just another viewpoint to sink in. You have players that exclusively play marine and then players that exclusively play Synthetic, or players that exclusively play Xenos. This game would do better if those giving inputs were engaging as both sides of the coin and it is only so fair that one of the two teams players are split into has a room to complain when their odds of winning are affected by a Whitelist. This is after all, a TDM game too.
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Well i don’t believe it was ever published who was in the discord, if i had known that lago wasn’t in the discord i wouldn’t have brought it up.
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You could try asking
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