I mean, yes, the M2C or RPG will definitely fuck up a Crusher, and overextending is just that - overextending. Nobody should go unpunished if they overextend, and if they do survive then that’s a skill issue on behalf of the other side.
RPG is MEANT to be anti-T3 though, and the M2C is apparently due for getting cut from the game entirely anywho. So, in my eyes, relatively moot points.
“no one should go unnnnpunished if they over extend”
They nerfed queen drag speed because it punished people for over extending.
Are you going to make a PR reversing that change?
Probably not, because we do not keep the same energy and what you really mean is “I as a marine should not be punished for over extending but the other side should be.”
I play xeno a fair bit nowadays, primarily in rounds where I may be pulled away from the keyboard during a round, since I know that ghosting will immediately offer my body to a waiting spectator.
I do die from overextending. I’m not mad about it - it’s my fault. I’ve played the game for a long time (mostly as a Marine, yes) and know the limitations of castes and marines both. If I do something dumb, then it’s dumb, and I cope with that.
The reason I won’t make a PR is primarily due to the fact that I can’t code for squat.
That block video is hilarious, but it also is a great demonstration of what we mean; that rav didn’t “overextend”, they walked literally 3 tiles from cover and got punished for it.
If that’s considered “overextending” then playing xeno without “overextending” would just be impossible because you’d never be able to walk towards marines
What the fuck are you smoking to say going through a ONE TILE CHOKE with zero backup into a horde of Marines isn’t overextending? Get yo trolling ass outta here BOI.
you dont need to code to look up the PR that added it and reverse the change.
Ah yes because having extra xenos behind you is exactly what you want when you’re trying to avoid being bodyblocked through a 1 tile exit.
I would say the problem is they went through a one tile choke without guarding the exit, if they had played it a bit differently and made sure no marine got in position to bodyblock then they would have been fine. I don’t think a lack of backup was the issue.
Also I’m pretty sure they could have just grab shuffled.
There were a lot of ways for it to go so he doesn’t die starting with not going out in a 1 tile choke. Secondly having a xeno such as a defender or a warrior toss the blocking marine away or any other caste with an AoE stun so yes another xeno would’ve been nice but it also would’ve probably needed to be organized. The third one is the grab shuffle… The fourth is not sucking as a rav and getting the second empowered dash to knock the guy inside and be safe.
Anyway it’s really shrimple just use the abilities better, save it for the grand escape and don’t be an SS13 antag that only thinks about fighting security without planning on how to escape from security if you get caught or in this case body blocked.
Okay before reading any responses, I think it is a good point you are bringing up. You are describing something you are observing that doesn’t make sense from a technical and lore standpoint. However I only agree in that T3s should maybe be able to thwap knock down a marine like Charger too a lesser extent. It is incredibly frustrating when a marine I just croosh and stomped BB me from egressing like DIE ALREADY.
However blocking xenos:
If you block a warrior you’re bald af they have three abilities that all can knock you out of their way
Defenders you can block if they miss their tail swipe or are steel crest
Ravagers typically have fling abilities and you absolutely for no reason want to block Hedgehog unless you’re a fan of being gibbed [has happened to me more than once]
Prae, if you are in a position to be body blocked sorry maybe you should think about your positioning more careful, regardless Warden has 9 tile stun knockdown, Dancer has evade, Oppressor can toss Marines whatever direction it likes, ans Vanguard I guess is a strain
BB Crusher requires precise timing on dodging their stomp and evading their slashes (which slow)
BB Charger requires you to not get flung or stomped
Can’t BB Burrowers if they aren’t bald
Boilers are kind of BB able minus their new neuro tail (very good)
Most other xenos are body blockable though to an extent
Talls can’t push xenos so I think thats good,
If they added minor trample that does robust damage (hitting the ground) that would be lore and technically logical cause big meaty xeno vs creature a quarter it size but from a gameplay stand point that is gonna be so easy to abuse. I am all for giving crusher it though.
Crusher gang for life. (Except when I play other castes)
This is more or less my thinking. +1
Don’t rush through a 1 tile chock point and complain when you die cause you got blocked. This goes for both sides.
It can be considered over extending but I see it more as a bad play. Instead of seeing a one tile entrance then charging into a marine force you maybe… not do that so you don’t die. Plus bad teamwork from the warrior prevented a quite easy grab/fling (if they were waiting behind the wall) plus note that the shotgun PB didn’t decide the kill, it was bad positioning from a choke point into a unweeded position (marines move fast on non weeded roles) with being unlucky with a SG and a good area to fight.
Conclusion: SKILL ISSUE
Wasn’t that the round where sniper flak made it impossible for xenos to walk out of the viro spot? Way more aids than bodyblocking could ever be.
If only there was a “The meta of flakking xenos to prevent them from playing topic” topic…
The difference between one singular marine having a cancerous mechanic versus the entire marine force capable of annoyance.
I AM GRAMPS AND I WILL CLOSE CADES ON YOU. I DON’T CARE HOW BIG YOU THINK YOU ARE YOU AREN’T LARGER THAN GRAMPS’ FIFTEEN EX-WIVES!
No one is. The horror.
You’re right. Try and body block a warrior or prae and see how far they fling you to your death!
Yes because I definitely didn’t use my abilities to inflict damage on the marines I was attacking and have all three ready to yeet you to brazil.