m79 is not useless (big yap)
m79 baton slug is not bad. it’s not amazing whatsoever imo, but it’s still not bad.
In terms of support weapons it’s one of the best.
There are much worse guns in the game then the m79
Calling it useless means you just dont know how to use it or havent given it a fair shot
Imo it’s better then m37 slug because cancelling abilities is useful. Big bonus, you can use shotguns too.
examples
yapping -- benefits to hedp
And for HEDP you can juggle xenos using a m79 with quick reloads. It is one of the more powerful ways to play rifleman since u can just lob a nade and get kills gauranteed.
The m79 is really just as good as the gl’s weapon.
You can tertiary weapon a HEDP m79 as a rifleman, and just draw from grenade pouch to quick reload. i wish i had clips, but it’s basically the same as GL spec grenade juggling so you get the picture. m79s are cheap and just easy to grab, so just having it in an offhand makes your grenade pouch more useful.
Benefit is it’s faster then UGL and still lowers the grenade timer to 2 seconds, and also since reloading is a main part of it you just have to worry about the capacity of your pouch or belt, not the capacity of the gl. The benefit of the m79 is still a LOT better then handthrowing nades. Even if u cook handthrown nades, you still risk a lot by holding it in hand (a xeno stuns you at any point? its over!). You also can’t easily juggle with handthrown nades - and it also multiplies the risk of 1 stun, since you’ll be cooking multiple nades at once.
Ofc if your bad at quick reloading it’s still useful, although not AS useful. But quick reloading is not nearly as hard to learn nowadays with inventory keybinds.
yapping -- batonslugs
With baton slug you can quick reload too, in order to suppress a ton of enemies at once. If you like shotgun slug’s utility, then baton slug does the same thing but heavier, and you can go immediately into ur shotgun.
(But buckshot pbs do NOT stun immediately after a baton slug stun. You have to wait for them to get up if you want stun. It still deals full dmg tho so it’s 100% worth it if you time it well… But it’s very difficult. Usually easier is just baton slug into mk2 since m79 baton slug also displaces. Or baton slug into mou flech.)
The problem compared to normal shotgun slugs, is that it’s harder to hit. However, if you do hit it it’s way stronger (in terms of debuffs), and you can reposition enemys with it. The IFF mode is even useable in some situations.
I prefer offhanding the m79 tho because it’s just a practical tertiary weapon imo.
After the grenade pouch capacity buff, if you’re not lazy, m79s are a great way to use your nades more effectively by just having it offhand. Or you can load it with a baton slug and just use it as a combo starter/anti-warrior tool.
It comes with the normal drawbacks of off-hand tertiary weapons but it’s still a fun loadout. Good to get used to offhand weapons too. Just keep your magharned weapon in your main hand - your tertiary weapon in your offhand, and wield whichever one is necessary.
Hornet shells suck, I agree.
Baton slugs are not bad tho, and in general the m79 is not as bad as you think it is.
But yeah the hornet shell is the worst weapon in the game imo. I’d rather use m44 over it any day of the week, and the m44 rn sucks dick.
(m44 getting buffed soon tho (maybe))
[BALANCE]Increase damage of standart revolver ammo from 55 to 72. by Huffie56 · Pull Request #6123 · cmss13-devs/cmss13 · GitHub
GL shotgun shell sounds cool tho. Given the high potential firerate, it’d be interesting gameplay wise