Alakaya - Player Report: Andy Marcotte, Rule 3. Community Expectations Rule 11. Marine Law

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Alakaya - Player Report: Andy Marcotte, Rule 3. Community Expectations Rule 11. Marine Law

What’s your BYOND key?

Alakaya

Round ID:

0

Your character name:

Amanda Apone

Accused BYOND key:

N/A

Accused character name:

Andy Marcotte

What rule(s) were broken?:

Rule 3. Community Expectations Rule 11. Marine Law

Description of the incident:

During the round Andy Marcotte was the CO, and there was an incident with an Alpha FTL Shouting “Glory to the UPP” over ship comms, so everyone was searching for them. Eventually the Alpha SG and I found them, and started shoving them while also shouting for help over the radio in hopes that an MP or an officer would arrive. The FTL then punched us, so we punched back, and after a few hits they pulled out their shotgun and PBed me. I died, but the Alpha SG managed to kill the FTL. When the CMP arrived, they took the Alpha FTL, and I was revived but needed surgery so I stayed shipside. After getting surgery the CMP came and arrested me for assault, which was dropped after I spoke with them.

During that time where I was explaining what happened from my point of view, the CO (Andy Marcotte) appealed the Alpha FTL, who was convicted of Murder, and possibly Subterfuge and other crimes, was granted their appeal by the CO. The CO did not come talk to me to ask for my side, and to my knowledge they didn’t ask anybody else what happened, which is a violation of the Appeal process. They then said that I was to be charged with Murder, and other crimes, which were baseless and they did not consult anybody about other than the FTL, at least to my knowledge.

I made an AHelp during the round, and they said there wasn’t anything they could due because it was a Whitelist issue.
Seeing as COs are held to a higher RP standard, and are suppossed to know what they are doing, there are a number of things that they could have done in this situation that would have been better decisions. They could have asked ARES (Admins) for a log of what had happened before appealing the FTL, as well as talking to me before granting the appeal of the Alpha FTL. If they had done this, they wouldn’t have granted their appeal.

Basically, the CO didn’t follow ML which I think is an issue, since COs are held to a higher standard and should know ML and command structure.

Evidence:

Requesting that logs be pulled.

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We need the round ID or the exact date and time in order to pull logs

3

Round ended last night around 9PM EST. Round ID is 17274 I believe.

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Hello. I bring logs:

The incident that kicked this all off:

[2023-06-12 23:34:49.722] SAY: Johhny Bash [department]: GLORY TO UPP!! (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)

And the natural consequences:

[2023-06-12 23:37:02.275] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,75,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:03.548] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:04.714] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:05.276] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:05.473] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: Dude (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:37:05.868] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:06.312] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: Fuck off (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:37:06.413] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:07.078] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:07.627] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:08.373] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:08.846] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:09.533] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:10.072] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:10.824] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:11.324] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:12.030] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:12.433] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: Can you fuck off? (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:37:13.247] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:13.390] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:14.469] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:14.636] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:15.828] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:17.088] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:18.332] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (232,72,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:18.846] ATTACK: /(Johhny Bash) disarmed /(Cooper Litium) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,73,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:22.597] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Bravo Preparation (231,70,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:26.488] ATTACK: /(Johhny Bash) punched Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (232,75,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:29.392] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) punched /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (232,77,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:29.801] ATTACK: /(Johhny Bash) disarmed Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (232,76,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:32.073] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) punched /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (232,76,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:32.127] ATTACK: /(Johhny Bash) punched Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (232,75,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:33.219] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (232,77,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:33.591] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) punched /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (232,77,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:33.889] ATTACK: /(Johhny Bash) punched Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (232,76,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:34.414] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,78,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:35.369] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) punched /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,78,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:37.282] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,78,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:38.468] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,78,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:38.551] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) grabbed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,79,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:39.676] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,78,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:40.903] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,78,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:42.109] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,78,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:43.249] SAY: Johhny Bash [department]: MPS TO ALPHA AREA!! (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:37:43.317] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,78,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:44.564] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,78,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:45.675] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,78,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:46.923] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,78,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:48.182] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,78,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:49.696] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,79,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:50.956] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,79,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:51.946] SAY: Johhny Bash [department]: I AM BEING ASSAULTED BY COOPER AND AMANDA!! (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:37:52.375] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,79,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:52.570] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) grabbed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (230,79,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:53.646] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) disarmed /(Johhny Bash) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (231,79,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:53.958] ATTACK: /(Johhny Bash) punched Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) in the Squad Alpha Preparation (230,79,3).
[2023-06-12 23:37:58.514] ATTACK: /(Johhny Bash) shot Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) with an additional flechette in the Squad Alpha Preparation
[2023-06-12 23:37:58.564] ATTACK: /(Johhny Bash) shot Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) with a flechette shell in the Squad Alpha Preparation
[2023-06-12 23:37:58.566] ATTACK: /(Johhny Bash) shot Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) with an additional flechette in the Squad Alpha Preparation
[2023-06-12 23:37:58.567] ATTACK: /(Johhny Bash) shot Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) with an additional flechette in the Squad Alpha Preparation
[2023-06-12 23:37:58.568] EMOTE: Amanda Apone/Alakaya : screams!
[2023-06-12 23:38:01.317] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) shot /(Johhny Bash) with a smartgun bullet in the Squad Alpha Preparation
[2023-06-12 23:38:02.084] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) shot /(Johhny Bash) with a smartgun bullet in the Squad Alpha Preparation
[2023-06-12 23:38:02.085] EMOTE: Johhny Bash/ : screams!
[2023-06-12 23:38:02.183] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) shot /(Johhny Bash) with a smartgun bullet in the Squad Alpha Preparation
[2023-06-12 23:38:08.588] ATTACK: /(Johhny Bash) shot Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) with a flechette shell in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:08.591] ATTACK: /(Johhny Bash) shot Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) with an additional flechette in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:08.593] ATTACK: /(Johhny Bash) shot Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) with an additional flechette in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:08.687] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) shot /(Johhny Bash) with a smartgun bullet in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:08.835] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) shot /(Johhny Bash) with a smartgun bullet in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:08.986] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) shot /(Johhny Bash) with a smartgun bullet in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:09.134] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) shot /(Johhny Bash) with a smartgun bullet in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:09.285] ATTACK: Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) shot /(Johhny Bash) with a smartgun bullet in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:12.537] ATTACK: ///DEAD/// - /(Johhny Bash) shot Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) with an additional flechette in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:12.539] ATTACK: ///DEAD/// - /(Johhny Bash) shot Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) with an additional flechette in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:12.592] ATTACK: ///DEAD/// - /(Johhny Bash) shot Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) with a flechette shell in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:12.594] ATTACK: ///DEAD/// - /(Johhny Bash) shot Alakaya/(Amanda Apone) with an additional flechette in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:18.666] ATTACK: /(Johhny Bash) injected /(Johhny Bash) with EZ emergency autoinjector (CAUTION) (REAGENTS: Bicaridine, Kelotane and Oxycodone) (INTENT: HELP) in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull (217,82,3).
[2023-06-12 23:38:24.749] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) shot /(Johhny Bash) with a smartgun bullet in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:24.900] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) shot /(Johhny Bash) with a smartgun bullet in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:25.047] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) shot /(Johhny Bash) with a smartgun bullet in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:25.199] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) shot /(Johhny Bash) with a smartgun bullet in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:26.303] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) shot /(Johhny Bash) with a smartgun bullet in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:26.401] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) shot /(Johhny Bash) with a smartgun bullet in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:26.550] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) shot /(Johhny Bash) with a smartgun bullet in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:26.750] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) shot /(Johhny Bash) with a smartgun bullet in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull
[2023-06-12 23:38:26.850] ATTACK: /(Cooper Litium) shot /(Johhny Bash) with a smartgun bullet in the Lower Aft-Starboard Hull

As this is being picked up, the CMP, CO and the Marines involved are all being treated. Amanda was taken to medbay and barely resurrected on time. The aggressor has the following conversation with the CO:

[2023-06-12 23:42:00.718] SAY: Johhny Bash [Whisper]: The SG and amanda fucking assualted me first and tabled me so i fought back A ND THAT (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:42:05.429] SAY: Johhny Bash [Whisper]: THE SG FUCKER (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:42:06.524] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: Hm? (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-12 23:42:08.532] SAY: Johhny Bash [Whisper]: STOLE MY M2c KIT (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:42:13.634] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: Who? (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-12 23:42:21.080] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: who. (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-12 23:42:24.281] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: Noted. (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-12 23:42:29.719] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: Charge Amanda and that alpha SG with murder. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:42:32.862] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: I will have them delt with. (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)

Then the CMP interviews the victim as the CO goes on to briefing.

[2023-06-12 23:42:54.202] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Explain to me how she murdered you. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:42:54.384] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: I was assaulted first (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:43:07.823] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: They talbed me which is considered assault (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:43:12.351] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: I foguht back with flecthhe (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:43:13.386] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Talbed…? (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:43:15.395] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: They gunned at me with (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:43:16.842] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: Tabled (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:43:17.867] SAY: Cooper Litium [1]: By assualt he means we pushed him over once, he never went on a table (CKEY: ) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:43:23.557] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Er… (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:43:24.068] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: You hit my head on a tabke (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:43:25.734] SAY: Cooper Litium [1]: Thrown into one (CKEY: ) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:43:28.240] SAY: Cooper Litium [1]: Not on one (CKEY: ) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:43:31.633] SAY: Cooper Litium [1]: Know the diffrence (CKEY: ) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:43:45.840] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: You were thrown into a table? (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:43:47.274] SAY: Cooper Litium [1]: Anyway yeah we lit your communist ass up after you took a section of the SG out with you buckshot (CKEY: ) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:43:50.670] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Or just some horse-play? (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:43:58.623] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: Yes (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:44:08.515] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: I still want my fucking m2c kit back which this fucker stole (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:44:16.691] SAY: Cooper Litium [1]: Proof? (CKEY: ) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:44:19.200] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Ok… so then you got up from being slammed into the table and proceeded to attack the SG… correct? (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:44:20.489] SAY: Cooper Litium [1]: We did table you (CKEY: ) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:44:23.081] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: You literally shoved me and stole it (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:44:23.527] SAY: Cooper Litium [1]: Never stole anything (CKEY: ) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:44:28.131] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: Yes they kept on coming at me (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:44:30.333] SAY: Cooper Litium [1]: We did table you though (CKEY: ) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:44:32.508] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Right. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:44:43.659] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: I want my m2c kit back (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:44:46.362] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: 22 rounds missing. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:44:55.122] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: IFF is off. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:44:55.416] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: Rodrigo (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:44:59.778] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: Did you take the m2c kit? (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:45:02.295] SAY: Cooper Litium [1]: Yeah after he shot the SG me and the bravo SG lit his ass up in maints (CKEY: ) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:45:03.163] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Right so. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:45:18.470] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: Because you are chasing after me WHEN ITS THE MP JOB TO? (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:45:20.328] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Was he slammed into a table? (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:45:23.109] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Not on, into? (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:45:42.455] SAY: Cooper Litium [1]: Indeed into not onto, we did try to tabel him but the SG failed to do so resulting in him being slamed into it (CKEY: ) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:45:50.163] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Right. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:45:52.584] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Welp… (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:45:55.402] SAY: Cooper Litium [1]: He got angry after said incident (CKEY: ) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:45:57.456] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: It had still dealt damage which is assualt (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:45:59.590] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: I see… (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:46:00.865] SAY: Cooper Litium [1]: Pull out the buck (CKEY: ) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:46:05.357] SAY: Cooper Litium [1]: Blew the SG to peices (CKEY: ) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:46:05.917] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: I want my fucking m2c kit back (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:46:09.860] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: ITS NOT BUCCKSHOT YOU DUMBASS (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:46:14.813] SAY: Cooper Litium [1]: I dont have your fucking M2c (CKEY: ) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:46:15.614] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Oh! (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:46:20.643] SAY: Cooper Litium [1]: Never did (CKEY: ) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:46:21.987] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: You stole it and hid it (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:46:23.397] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: You dumbass (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:46:26.870] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: You hit the SG with flechette after being slammed into a table? (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:46:27.497] SAY: Cooper Litium [1]: So true (CKEY: ) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:46:39.568] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: Yes they keep on assautling me so i had the right to (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:46:47.235] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: They had clear intenntions to not stop (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:46:49.110] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: You are under arrest, do not resist. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:46:50.023] ATTACK: /(Mark Levine) attempted to handcuff /(Johhny Bash) in the �Alpha Bravo Equipment Preparation (189,75,3).
[2023-06-12 23:46:52.562] ATTACK: /(Mark Levine) grabbed /(Johhny Bash) in the Alpha Bravo Equipment Preparation (189,75,3).
[2023-06-12 23:46:53.562] SAY: Cooper Litium [1]: As you just said “thats the MPs job” (CKEY: ) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:46:55.138] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: I want to appeal. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)

CMP Orders Amanda’s arrest:

[2023-06-12 23:46:59.114] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Please give Amanda her gear. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:47:02.630] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Actually. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:47:09.946] SAY: Mark Levine [MP]: Set Amanda Apone to arrest for assault. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)

The CMP meanwhile takes the aggressor in all that and puts him in perma.

[2023-06-12 23:47:38.320] SAY: Johhny Bash [General]: They stole my m2c. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:47:44.125] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: You won’t need it. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:47:47.883] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: Why? (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:47:49.530] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: I didnt do shit (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:47:52.634] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: I was assaulted first. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:47:53.281] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Murder. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:47:55.774] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: Bro (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:48:03.509] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Does not matter, you do not KILL someone for slamming you into a table. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:48:06.642] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: I was literally murdered and defended myself (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:48:13.267] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: You shot first. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:48:19.304] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: I was assaulted first (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:48:22.535] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Of course. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:48:22.538] SAY: Johhny Bash [1]: I have a right to defend myself (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:48:27.795] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Which is why Amanda is being arrested as well. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)

CMP also runs into Amanda.

[2023-06-12 23:55:07.345] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: You are under arrest, do not resist. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:55:13.279] SAY: Amanda Apone [1]: What (CKEY: Alakaya) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:55:16.419] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Assault. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:55:19.539] SAY: Amanda Apone [1]: How? (CKEY: Alakaya) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:55:25.429] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Slamming Johhny into a table. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:55:29.539] SAY: Amanda Apone [1]: I never did that/ (CKEY: Alakaya) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:55:37.871] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: That’s not what the witnesses say. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:55:42.020] SAY: Amanda Apone [1]: Okay. (CKEY: Alakaya) (JOB: Smartgunner)
[2023-06-12 23:55:49.922] SAY: Amanda Apone [1]: The only other person there was the Alpha SG. (CKEY: Alakaya) (JOB: Smartgunner)

The Appeal in question. The brig is incredibly busy at this point, 2 appeals and one investigation is being performed. As this goes on, Amanda is also interviewed by another MP. They too are let go. Meanwhile the CO arrives in perma for the appeal, which he conducts with the CMP for the most part.

[2023-06-12 23:58:51.708] SAY: (Johhny Bash) [1]: Morning CO (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:59:03.638] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: So. (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-12 23:59:12.878] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: You claim self defense then? (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-12 23:59:15.016] SAY: (Johhny Bash) [1]: Yes. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:59:21.621] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: So, they ran on batoning people, etcetera. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-12 23:59:25.687] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: Warden, who died in this incident? (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-12 23:59:33.254] SAY: Craig ‘Smog’ Jesston [1]: I wasn’t present. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Military Warden)
[2023-06-12 23:59:40.283] SAY: (Johhny Bash) [1]: Amada had Died after they chased me in maintence from shooting at me (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-12 23:59:42.721] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: Who was listed for the death then? (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-12 23:59:51.398] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: And who was amanda? (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-12 23:59:55.274] SAY: (Johhny Bash) [1]: A Bravo SG. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-13 00:00:06.046] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: Right. (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:00:09.646] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: They died? (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:00:14.556] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: And only them I assume? (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:00:27.877] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: Heres a question then. (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:00:35.057] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: Did at any point before their death. (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:00:39.790] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: Ok so what you are saying is in no way defending your actions for interfering with the arrest. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-13 00:00:40.509] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: Start shooting at you? (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:00:51.722] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: You’re just explaining causes of him attempting to make the arrest. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-13 00:01:00.220] SAY: (Johhny Bash) [1]: No i had the right intentions they would contiune to assault me which would cause further harm to me. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-13 00:01:09.250] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: Right. (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:01:15.139] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: So what was the comment you made? (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:01:23.441] SAY: (Johhny Bash) [1]: As a joke mind you (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-13 00:01:28.854] EMOTE: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte/Thespy24574 : sighs
[2023-06-13 00:01:32.972] SAY: Craig ‘Smog’ Jesston [1]: Said in full russian. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Military Warden)
[2023-06-13 00:01:36.046] SAY: Craig ‘Smog’ Jesston [1]: Over comms. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Military Warden)
[2023-06-13 00:01:48.582] SAY: (Johhny Bash) [1]: We are not in war with UPP are we? (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-13 00:01:55.057] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: We are. (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:01:58.598] SAY: Mark Levine [1]: When things have calmed down. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Chief MP)
[2023-06-13 00:02:00.046] SAY: (Johhny Bash) [1]: More so non hot conflict. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-13 00:02:12.248] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: The frequently attack us. (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:02:14.718] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: They I mean. (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:02:15.028] SAY: (Johhny Bash) [1]: The Bravo SG and Alpha SG had no right to assault me. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-13 00:02:21.589] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: Suppose this. (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:02:37.661] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: They had a heated argument which, yourself, ignited. (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:02:43.340] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: Was it only punches? (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:02:55.846] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: Or full blown rifle fire? (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:02:56.915] SAY: (Johhny Bash) [1]: Punchs. shoving and breaking my head on a table. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-13 00:03:09.837] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: Right. (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:03:28.356] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: So. In an attempt to stop being murdered you shot them? (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:03:35.704] SAY: (Johhny Bash) [1]: Yes. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-13 00:04:20.501] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: So self defense was it? (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:04:24.043] SAY: (Johhny Bash) [1]: Yes. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-13 00:04:25.862] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: You shot them until they died? (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:04:38.216] SAY: (Johhny Bash) [1]: I had Shot once and they fell to the ground while i was retreating. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-13 00:04:39.029] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: Was, at any point, you attempted to call for MPs? (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:04:41.498] SAY: (Johhny Bash) [1]: I did (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-13 00:04:55.496] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: I have to get back to CIC. (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-13 00:05:00.287] SAY: Craig ‘Smog’ Jesston [1]: Or sticking for the drama. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Military Warden)
[2023-06-13 00:05:03.813] SAY: (Johhny Bash) [1]: Alright i will be waiting Major. (CKEY: ) (JOB: Fireteam Leader)
[2023-06-13 00:05:05.092] EMOTE: Unknown/ : salutes.
[2023-06-13 00:05:05.972] SAY: Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte [1]: This appeal is accepted on the grounds for self defense. (CKEY: Thespy24574) (JOB: Commanding Officer)

That seems to be it. Please let me know if I missed anything.

EDIT: More filtering a few unrelated quotes got in

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Pending CO council review

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The CO also was in Brig while I had been waiting there and stated they wanted me charged with Murder. There should be logs of it.

The CMP released me though, as I did not murder the FTL.

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I searched for the CO ever wanting to charge you with anything and they did not do that. Only the Johhny ever said that you committed murder.

As I posted in the logs: You were set to arrest for Assault and were brought in by the CMP into the brig, where you were interviewed and released while the appeal in question was being processed. It does not appear that at any point the MPs wanted to arrest you for murder, but rather for assault, a crime you were guilty of.

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The CO and I were never in the same room when handling appeals. I don’t know if you misspoke but the CO never called me, nor did I sit in and watch the appeal, even though I was the arresting officer. I was handling the appeal with the Charlie SL.

In regards to your second comment, I witnessed the CO want to charge Amanda.

Also, to clarify the order of events, the CO and the FTL walked out of Perma, some words were exchanged, the CO ordered the SG to be charged, I told the CO that Johhny was a self-professed murderer, the CO said he was too busy and returned to CIC. I then spoke with the other MP and Amanda saying that I would be drafting a fax to highcomm. The CO then called me into CIC to ask what I was doing, I explained to him that I was going to be faxing for failing to properly investigate. He said that Johhny was freed on the basis of “self defense” but the CO called it “extreme”.

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The CO never ordered your or anyone else arrests. All arrests related to this matter were handled by the CMP. The CO was only involved in the above snippets I posted.

I see the CO sporadically mention the matter in various conversations as the operation falters, but I do not see anything of substance that would add to this matter. Their justification for accepting the appeal are clear as is.

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They did. I was sat down in a chair in brig, the CO then said “Attempted Murder” as well as something else when standing outside the brig door.

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Andy ‘Mutton’ Marcotte here, The CO in question, I vaguely remember this round.

I remember the chat with CMP talking about the appeal. And I do recall a majority of the appeal though not much after it (Thanks Silencer_pl for getting the logs).

Perhaps I could have done better information gathering, calling in CMP and the like.

In regards to the actual appeal, I did try my best to remain on topic and processing it normally. By nearing the end of it you realize I said: “I have to get back to CIC”. This was due to the operation faltering and requiring my immediate presence.

In hindsight, I should have asked Keaton to command the operation. Or had XO come back up shipside to handle the operation. Regardless, I handled the appeal best I could with the information I had on hand (which wasnt much, I hoped warden would fill me in with what had happened or give me more to go off of, but he didn’t say much regrettably) and following brig issues as they came to me. CMP was going to fax a complaint to HC/Provost but hijack happened.

All in all, lot of drama.

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Again yes, it was not a lengthy discussion, just a sentence or two, but yes, the CO pointed at the SG and said the charges.

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Council has looked this over and determined that the CO in this case has made a lapse in judgement in handling the mentioned appeal. The process wasn’t exactly handled correctly and more could’ve been done to make a better decision on the matter.

In addition, a CIC should remain adequately staffed enough for the CO or XO to be able to leave the room without putting the operation below in danger, with these kinds of incidents being the very reason it is that way.

Combined with previous incidents, the Council has decided to issue Thespy a heavy warning for their actions. This report is resolved.

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