Allow Smartgunners to carry another weapon on their back

As title says: let SGs carry a weapon on their back, like a rifle, flamer, or shotgun for a backup weapon.

More guns is more fun, plus it would be funny as fuck seeing an SG carry an m56d.

You could also make this a buyable armor from SG vendors for like 45 points, with all the same stats but the only difference being a back slot for guns.

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PLEASE let me stun xenos with buckshot and instantly kill them with my smartgun PLEASE sg is so weak and useless i NEED my buckshot stun…

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If we’re going by movie accuracy, one of the smartgunners carries an M240 flamethrower with him, you can see it in the scene where they escape to the APC. He ditches his smartgunner kit for the flamethrower after it runs out of ammo (or jams).

I don’t think this is a good idea, I mean, if you REALLY wanted to, you could juggle a gun+smartgun.

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You already can, take the shotgun belt.
Dont be restricted by the drumbelt meta. Be free.

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Letting SGs use their Smartgun AND another gun with ease is a terrible idea.
The smartgun is designed to be weaker than a regular gun on average, but more powerful overall in the hands of someone competent. Put bluntly, the majority of people kind of suck at using the smartgun to its fullest potential. If you switch modes perfectly, you will have amazing round impact. You won’t be as good as a spotter with a Mk2 in direct combat, but you’ll be able to shoot at anytime, so you’re still having more round impact.

Can you grab a MK2 and frag out anyways, right now? Yes, you can- and it’s pretty damn effective at killing bugs. Problem? It’s an absolute pain in the ass so you’ll probably give up because there’s nowhere to store the rifle- Ultimately, it’s a pretty big trade off.

An SG should currently switch on frontline mode whenever they have LoF (the majority don’t do this). That’s 20 AP @ 300 RPM. A rifle? 33 AP @ 240 RPM.
If you let them carry a rifle with ease, you’ve just raised every SGs DPS by about 35% in that situation. It’s far too strong- Every bit of DPS matters, because xenos either live or die. They don’t suffer from health-based attrition like fractures, you either kill them or you don’t.

4 extra spotters running around but ALSO having never-ending IFF guns and free MDs slapped on is a horrifying concept.

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You all bring up good points, maybe my idea is kinda dogshit lmao

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OP cooked with this

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you can already fit an M39 with the SG, just take two large general pouches for 4 slots of drums

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I tried the cursed m39 build once and I hate the fact it’s actually decent :patrice:

More just the fact that NVGs are a huge buff though

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this is what I do if I want a punchy secondary, or VP78 belt

anyway SG doesn’t really need to be able to carry more guns and generally I think powercreeping the SG’s back slot is stupid (the reason they can’t wear back stuff is because originally they had to wear the powerpack backpack, but when that got removed and consolidated they kept the back slot restriction)

being able to easy bring other guns also encourages to just use the nvgs to try and frag out etc.

really sg probably needs a full overhaul since right now its a bit of a confused role imo

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Make me an IFF sentry with the auto aim walk range extended… lemme just put this on the tap for an hour of W + M1 gameplay

I think PvE has a machete pouch for SG back slot. This alongside shoulder holster is enough.

What SG lacks is choice in smartguns, there should be like three models to choose from.

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remember. we need compensation for what the xenodevs did to us.

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just bring a UBS mk41 with ap /thread

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it is kinda weird that sg can buy the fuel tank strap pouch but can’t comfortably carry a flamer, literally noob trap

As it stands that’d be op. Although I am in favor of letting Marines carry sidearms without compromising their kits the game is not in a place to let this happen since it’ll only make fragging easier.

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What i wouldn’t give to have my dual firing targeting rifle with insane ammo capacity for a sniper and freakish dps here…finally i can give up on skill completely and let my gun truly do the work…

Idk multiple SGs sounds good in theory but it’s hard to create two guns that aren’t too same-y (HMG and LMG SGs on TGMC have minimal damage differentials when crunched, one just uses a backslot and one doesn’t), or too overpowered and potentially creeping on some other restricted role (SG rifle was just faster-firing slightly lower dmg AMR there)

More back option utilities would be cool, though. MRE or flare box SG…

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One could be just like a sentry you carry around and it shoots for you, the other a hybrid between M2C and a smartgun.

Even some spec get to choose their main weapon, while SG is always the same.

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that’s fair, yea; you’re right that if specs can get reasonable sidegrades then maybe it’s not too far-fetched a dream for SG

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I mean they already kill me by mag dumping hedgehogs they might as well just PB me instead

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