Anuv - Player Report: Jimmy ‘FF’ Chance, Rule 2 (Deployment), Rule 4 (No griefing), Rule 10 (Lethal Force)
Janice ‘Foxy’ Lean
Jimmy ‘FF’ Chance
Rule 2 (Deployment), Rule 4 (No griefing), Rule 10 (Lethal Force)
I was on the ground at LV-624 as SO this round and it was starting to approach the end of the round. Hive was just wiped in NE caves and queen was killed but there were still at least 10 hostiles per bioscan. Containers was mostly secure but it was still the front, as runners and lurkers were still harassing the beach.
At that point I overheard IO Estella Kanagawa starting to report on the intel channel that an OT was stealing the queen’s corpse - which was very odd, as the queen was killed in hive not long before her callout. I found this even more odd also considering that I was at the front (central barrens/beach) and the entire beach was still an active combat zone/front. She stated multiple times over the radio the OT was planning to destroy the queen’s corpse. This was again repeated on Command, and I believe the CO (Alexander Balakhara) said for the OT to stop.
I asked where they all were and she said containers (again the front, active combat zone).
By the time I came over I saw OT Jimmy 'FF Chance, IO Estella Kanagawa, and around half a dozen others standing around the queen’s corpse. There were two custom C4 charges planted (I think one was on a second xeno beneath her but I definitely saw two charges) and everyone was standing close around. As I continued to approach I saw that Jimmy was being aim mode’d at, and was then shot. At that point the C4 immediately exploded, killing/bringing to crit about half a dozen Marines from what I saw, and myself (I did not die but was probably at 190 damage before I was treated). The charge(s) had incendiary and explosive contents, some people were burned. The queen’s corpse was also still completely intact.
Upon reviving there were others that came over including CO Alex, all trying to understand what happened. The OT replied he was trying to destroy the queen corpse to “send a message to the xeno menace” which is, needless to say, zero justification. A queen corpse is a huge boost to both Intel points and Research and - even if the round seemed to be winding down - it wasn’t over. The hive could have come back and there was zero justification to not only destroy it but steal it from an IO and then try to destroy it.
The OT also stated that the IO “shot the C4” which I know is mechanically impossible, and a blatant lie, and I imagine the logs will show that a signaler or timer was used. I think this is important to highlight if logs show that it was used as an excuse for what happened/blame for the explosion was shifted to the IO.
I believe the IO acted well within her rights to try to stop harm (C4 being used around friendlies for zero justifiable reason, at an active combat front, and not being used to breach/secure an area). An OT was at the front far away from ANY secure zone, trying to destroy a rare intel item (queen corpse) for absolutely no reason, and also ignoring direct orders from a Lieutenant officer to stop. Given the danger she likely saw with how many Marines were nearby I believe she acted correctly, as the OT then exploded it with no thought to the others standing close by.
Specific to the rules:
Rule 2. Deployment. Shipside Crew, where authorized to deploy, must remain in secure areas. The only secure zone in the entire colony was the FOB, far to the southwest.
Rule 4. No griefing. C4ing a corpse around friendlies with zero justifiable reason.
Rule 10. Lethal Force. Escalation, Lethal Weapons. Multiple Marines were crit/killed by the C4.
I’m also going to very strongly state that if Estella did get any punishment that Rule 10 (Lethal Force) clearly has a defined exception for “Exceptional Circumstances” - and I believe Estella acted completely within her right to try and stop what she (correctly) judged as serious imminent harm to multiple people around her for zero discernible IC reason by someone who was not allowed to be at the front per OOC server rules. I hope that whatever may have happened to her is corrected given the circumstances that a simple FF log can’t reflect or justify.
I am asking for a staff manager to look into this as I believe that I was griefed, the OT blatantly griefed for no reason, and Estella was possibly wrongly punished for a correct exceptional escalation call against someone who was ignoring OOC rules, IC orders, and was set to harm/kill other players as they so did.
Logs admitting it was done “to send a message”:
Another log claiming that the IO shot the C4 and triggered it, which is mechanically impossible, and possibly repeated to staff: