bobbyroylee - Player Report: Hal 'F' Santiago, Rule 11: Marine Law

bobbyroylee - Player Report: Hal ‘F’ Santiago, Rule 11: Marine Law

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bobbyroylee

Round ID:

32361

Your character name:

Riku ‘Freak’ Sakamoto

Accused character name:

I forgot his name. ‘F’ was his nickname.

What rule(s) were broken?:

Rule 11: Marine Law

Description of the incident:

Researcher accidentally kills someone from the effect of their concoction.
MPs choose to arrest him for an accident.
I start boo’ing them and as they’re leaving I’m yelling ‘FUCK YOU PIGS’.
All MPs leave except the CMP, which is clearly offended. I forgot the exact exchange but I said “Fuck you” to him. He starts putting handcuffs on me. I take one step away and stand there and say, “for what?”.
He tazes me.
Takes me to brig, refuses to give me a pen for the appeal form.
He releases me to the yard.
I look around for a pen but I see none. He proclaimed there was one out there.
I stand around, I find no pen. I break a few lights and then sit in the darkness.
He eventually realizes this. He comes in, drags me to the jail cell and locks the yard.
He then increases my time. I think I repeated the thing about a pen and he finally gave me one.

I didn’t fill out the appeal form because I just wanted to wait out the 20 minutes so I could play the game.

20 minutes go by. He releases me. He puts my stuff on me, or at least some of it, then drags me to the entrance.

We have an enjoyable back and forth. I call him an incel and told him his nickname was fitting “F”. I’m not saying I was in the right here.
I leave. He randomly goes chasing after me. We’re below the bar area for CIC and he tazes me then tells me I’m under arrest.
He brings me back to the brig, puts me in the cell. I tell him I want to appeal TWICE. He doesn’t acknowledge either one, the 2nd one was in front of another MP and the SEA.
He proclaims I didn’t want to appeal
I then repeat for a 3rd time that I wanted to appeal but that he didn’t acknowledge my first two.
He gives me the paper and once again refuses to give me a pen. Then he proceeds to argue with the SEA (Hades) about if he’s required to give me a pen. He never gives me the pen and another MP gives it to me instead.

Somehow he kept me brigged for the entire round from about 15 minutes into the round 'til an hour and 20 minutes. I dont think I was right to insult him but I feel he excessively abused his power in keeping me occupied for the entire nearly 1.5 hour round as well as not giving me a pen after I had repeatedly mentioned it.
I also ahelped about this twice during the situation but got no response

Evidence:

I wasn’t sure if I was going to even report this but I just feel like this was extremely excessive and was abuse of power. So I don’t have any copy pastes or anything as I waited 'til the next round to start before I even made this.

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Hal ‘F’ Santiago

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I was the SEA in the round and I was originally heading to the brig to catch up with the new MP and check on how they were doing. I saw the CMP arresting Riku and was observing the process play out. From what I gathered from their arguments, this was the second time Rikku was being arrested and the second time he requested for his right to appeal. I wasn’t able to procure ARES logs for his exact charges so I can’t say much about his charges.

However, I can confirm that Hal ‘F’ Santiago was resistant to providing Riku the means to fill out the appeals form. The CMP listed out Riku’s charges and was walking away from the brig cell until I had to prompt him with a reminder that he had to tell Riku his right to appeal (as seen below). The CMP did comply and listed out his right to appeal, but then changed his mind and attempted to withdraw his right to appeal when Riku retorted.

I pressed him saying that Riku still maintains his right to appeal since he has requested it multiple times, and only then did the CMP respond by giving him the appeals form

However, Santiago refused to provide a pen for Riku with the appeals form. He defended his actions saying that marine law did not explicitly state that a pen should be provided alongside an appeals form, therefore Riku did not needed to be provided a means to fill out the form. I attempted to tell him that denying Riku a pen or a means to fill out the form is the equivalent of denying him the right to appeal, but he was insistent that the marine law itself does not explicitly state that a pen should be given.

He then argued that a prisoner can dictate their appeal, therefore a provision of a pen is not necessary according to marine law. However, his assumption is incorrect, as marine law explicitly states the dictation clause only when the prisoner is restrained from doing self-harm or other destructive behaviors. In this round, however, the prisoner was not restrained and he has not displayed any behavior that I’ve personally seen that would merit them with a straightjacket or a handcuff.

I adviced the CMP that his use of ‘marine law did not say I should provide a pen’ excuse puts him under Malicious compliance charge as he is actively denying Riku his right to fill out an appeals form.

The CMP then tried to respond by saying the prisoner can access a pen from the courtyard, but not only were the shutters to the courtyard closed at this time, but Riku claimed he could not find a pen in the courtyard to complete his previous appeal form either. Another MP (Faraz Lao) at this time decided to grab a pen and hand it to Riku personally, while the CMP himself refused and claimed Riku lost the right to access a pen due to his conduct.

After seeing that my advice of marine law was not getting through to him, I left the brig and informed the CO of his CMP’s misconduct, at which point the round promptly ended so there was no concrete solution to Santiago’s conduct as CMP. But I do believe CMP Santiago acted with malicious compliance by refusing to follow proper appeals process for Riku.

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Absolute insane documentation. Thank you for being able to provide all that. I’m on poopoo linux and it just erases everything after a round.

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Hello @bobbyroylee.

After looking into the incident, I can indeed agree that Rule 11: Marine Law/Malicious Compliance was broken. You are meant to be using the Sprit of the Law where you can, and someone who has had enough experience playing as the Military Police should be well aware of it. Not handing a pen to a prisoner requesting an appeal because “it is not required by law” creates unnecessary delays and is using Marine Law maliciously.

Spirit of The Law

The laws written are meant as intended by their spirit and not necessarily exact wording, should MPs disagree on edge cases the Marine Law rank structure must be followed. High Command > Commanding Officer > Chief MP > Military Warden > MP.

In conclusion, I will be approving this report, and the accused player will be given a 1 Day Ban, and a CMP Jobban.

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