Camera position on marines!

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I am writing this, quite exhausted so please excuse any like, mistakes.

Marines struggle with a kinda, “Drip or functionality” issue at the moment, as seen with berets.
They look cool n all? but wheres the damn camera? cause for some reason, all the cameras are mounted on the helmet? where though? theres no… sprite as far as im aware for a lil camera.
However, on alien games such as fireteams elite and dark descent, the camera AND light are a two in one system.
Does anyone else agree that having the camera mounted on the CHEST PLATE would make much more sense?

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No

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great discussion! thanks for the input

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I do

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As a command main I wouldn’t mind having the camera mounted on the armor for the simple fact more marines run around without helmets than armor and not being able to view up to a third of a squad at times is extremely annoying.

That being said I highly doubt this will ever change, would more or less require the maintainer manager/hosts wanting to make this change which I doubt they would want to. I’m sure some would even argue the helmet camera is more ‘soul’ and I could honestly see that point of view myself.

One of the most memorable rounds I’ve ever played on the server was Bill Carson ordering the arrest of any marine without a helmet on. Now he’s done this plenty of times before but for some reason this round spiralled out of control and a mutiny occurred before the first drop even happened. Wasn’t until like 45-50 minutes into the round that the first boots touched the ground and long story short marines had to evac the planet within 20 minutes. Good times.

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I’ve always been in favorite of putting the camera on marines’ armor and just having it turn off when the light is turned off (if being able to see the hive is a major balance concern). But that’s both a WYCI thing and also a maintainer approval thing. Arguments like ‘just wear a helmet’ are goofy, and just punish people who value creating a unique and interesting character over mechanical advantages: players who are already giving themselves a handicap.

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make the camera attached to their earpiece. All marines have one. Problem solved

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I disagree with putting it on armor or a helmet because we could just do what they did in the movie and have it be in a headset.

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That’s the SG headset, and I’m pretty sure that camera is part of the targeting system

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and the cic camera is combined there because you can see vasquez cam
Do you see any other cameras? Because I don’t.

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Do you see that headset on the other marines? Because I don’t.

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If you refer to the dark descent armour, you can see that the shoulder mounted light is also a camera

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Now, let’s be honest. Before the wear a helmet operatives burst in the discussion.

If a marine (me) decided they don’t wanna wear a helmet, acknowledging the decap risk, the brain damage, broken skull, IBs, friendly fire, blindness and all.
The staff officer sitting in CIC screaming at me to wear a helmet is not gonna change my opinion in the slightest.

I’ve been set as ASL and the SO changed the squad orders, did announcements, messages ,etc for me to wear a helmet. Did i? No, because i already gave up on the mechanical incentives, i already handicapped myself by not wearing a helmet and the voice in my earpiece won’t change this.

Of course, by doing this I’m punishing him by making him unable of checking my cams and making his job harder overall. Why not just let us have a headset or armor camera (which is source material accurate) so that the SO isn’t the one punished and i can enjoy my IB in peace

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Whoa you don’t care you’re so cool

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I really hate the “just wear a helmet” players

CM culture might be on a comeback when someone finally buffs not wearing a helmet and tells these people to stuff it.

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I like the idea of headsets holding the cam over helms, and hugging makes you lose your headset/breaks it

or hell make it an attachment for the headset that costs points

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Having huggers break the headset sounds like a horrifying throwback to hugger combat helmet break hell. :dizzy_face:

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i agree with putting cameras on armor but in exchange berets should be removed because theyre too anime and poopy and marines never wear berets

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This isn’t that deep

Wear a helmet or don’t it’s already your choice

Don’t act surprised when you’re playing FTL or SL and get told to put a helmet on

I don’t wear a helmet cause I think the headband rocks, I don’t do it to spite SOs or feel like I got cheated when I say “on me” and the SO can’t see it. It was my choice

It’s unique cause it’s meant to be less effective in every way than a helmet. It’s not unique if everyone has berets or headbands on

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The problem is that the downside of not having a camera doesn’t really directly matter to you. It makes the game worse for other players, namely those trying to run overwatch.

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