CampinKiller - Player Report: Caleb Bloodworth, Alexei 'Ramius' Torifomov, Edward 'Static' Diaz, Rule 3: Don't be a dick

CampinKiller - Player Report: Caleb Bloodworth, Alexei ‘Ramius’ Torifomov, Edward ‘Static’ Diaz, Rule 3: Don’t be a dick

What’s your BYOND key?

CampinKiller

Round ID:

23911

Your character name:

Caroline A.W. Ljungman

Accused BYOND key:

Unknown

Accused character name:

Caleb Bloodworth, Alexei ‘Ramius’ Torifomov, Edward ‘Static’ Diaz

What rule(s) were broken?:

Rule 3: Don’t be a dick

Description of the incident:

These 3 decided, Caleb for the 2nd straight day, to endlessly harass me ICly because I denied their Echo squad request. From the safety of being nowhere close to me so I could not handle it ICly.

Evidence:

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Hello, I am the Person behind Edward “Static” Diaz.

In the game I have been playing with a group of buddies for around 3 rounds. The rounds were on Chances claim followed by Kujevo Refinery and then LV-642. In these 3 rounds I have with my friends, like any other round decided to play together and as per tradition ask CIC for Echo to be formed; Most of the time we get denied, other times we are allowed in. I do know some COs from prior rounds who will likely to deny it or likely to accept us, but we still go to CIC and ask anyway. If denied we still play and do flanks to the Xeno forces. In this report I have been accused of “Endlessly Harassing“ for denying Echo “being Nowhere near to be able to handle it ICly”.

First of all the reason you could not handle this ICly is due to the fact that you are known to be BE trigger happy, interestingly enough on LV-642 you had MPs that you could have utilised before drop has even happened, but instead of asking MPs to come and arrest you walked into the Alamo where I was sitting alone, without saying a single word used your ICly method of Metaba to the
head and executed me taking me out of the round. The reason for this BE was
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Well there is a few things wrong with the reasons for your Battlefield Execution.

You accused me of Encouraging your assassination, yet nowhere during the round have I mentioned about assassinating you, the moderator (NessiePendragon) has apparently encouraged you to use your BE even if they were not part of the CO council.


If you would read back on the chat logs, it can be clearly seen that
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this was the only thing during the round that could be the reason for my BE.

In the round before the one I have been BEd, I remember Echo was being thought about by the Captain at the time, but a few minutes after you wake up you instantly without reason denied Echo,

During the pre-drop time my buddies and I have made a few jokes and to you, one of them was actually a plan that goes along the lines of “I am going to boom on the frontline”. As a matter of fact, there was no sabotaging action in this round. I do not think I have mentioned anything about assassinating the CO during the time, since you your dislike to the comments my friends and I have made a comment “you must be short since the joke flew over your head”, you then said on alpha comms something along the lines of “Alright Edward and Caleb, come to CIC to get assigned to echo”, even if I was a monkey I would understand that this was bait, that’s where I made another comment “even with a fishing rod that bait would not work”.

At this time it was getting a few minutes before the dropship could launch and marines were packing on the Alamo, other marines and I could see you walking around the Alamo with a Metaba.

Sometime after the round was beginning to end and action was dying down, Caleb made a statement “CO you still a bitch” on squad comms, and I said also in squad comms “Caleb is spitting straight Facts”, then I made my own statement hinting on the last round where the Caroline A.W. Ljungman late-joins as a CO denies echo then some time after goes to cryo and another CO wakes up -“CO wakes up, denies Echo, prepares for Cryo.".

As for the last round where I have “Endlessly Harassed you”- I do not recall saying anything to you that could be considered as harassment. - I would like to see the chat logs for this as I believe this is a false statement.

To conclude my defence, I would like to say Harassment is a strong word to call this, would being a dick also include a bunch of marines calling a mutiny on a COs unpopular decision as well? NessiePendragon encouraging a BE without being a CO Councillor. As well as that the Ban note that got me banned for 3 hours that is related to this is really saying something. If I was harassing them, would there be anything better to find?
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This note is a flat out lie.
What sabotaging behaviour were we engaging in? I’d also like to see evidence for this as to my knowledge we didn’t participate in any behaviour that would fall within the bounds of harassment.

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I don’t know why I’m bothering to respond to this, when I believe the outcome is most likely already decided and I can sway no opinions with this post. However, I will argue my case regardless.

This is clearly an IC issue. Granted, I’ll admit my comments were inappropriate and directed at you for denying Echo. However, I don’t understand why you didn’t simply immediately have us both detained as that would’ve been the appropriate action and well within your rights as a CO by leveraging DASO laws. Again, well within your rights and the most appropriate action.

Instead, you quite very literally BE’d Edward ‘Static’ Diaz, for a singular comment he made, and he did not insult you or make any disparaging comments about you in any way, nor did he threaten to assassinate you, he made a dumb joke and said “Do we do the boom on the front?” to me and not as a comment directed at you and then, without prior warning you waited until he was on the dropship and unsuspectingly Battlefield Executed him. He made quite literally, zero threats to your life or anyone else’s and made 1 innocuous, but dumb, comment about “boom booming" the front and for that you executed him. This is improper escalation and a breach of CO conduct on the rules of BEing personnel.

Also, something worth mentioning: in your CO WL application, you stated that ‘Battlefield executions are a privilege that shouldn’t be taken lightly’ and that you would use one ‘if a marine were to directly attempt to kill you’—emphasis on the directly part—and only ‘if there was not a feasible alternative involving detainment.’ You were more than capable of having Diaz arrested at this time with MPs but you chose to unlawfully execute him on the spot without a good reason.

As for the so-called ‘harassment’, all I did was call you a cocksucker and a bitchass. These are inappropriate comments but that is all, if I said something more severe please point it out. I don’t even think you played the day before. “Caleb for the 2nd straight day, to endlessly harass me ICly because I denied their Echo squad request”. The other time you denied us I just accepted it and wished you good luck and then hive-dived, as I do for most cases where we get denied.

I will admit this is the 2nd time I have snapped at a Commander, however that Commander was not you and I later reconciled with said Commander (Sampson ‘Ironfist’ Ponds, I believe) after realising how based he was because instead of punishing me for my stupid 1 off comment after denying Echo he simply ignored my dumbass. Which I think is a mature approach, he doesn’t entertain my nonsense and doesn’t overzealously take the opportunity to ruin my fun on a technicality because I insulted him.

I also find the fact that an admin encouraged you to BE me and others extremely disturbing. Especially Diaz, as unlike me, he made quite literally no offensive comments that fall within the examples of the CO’s Code of Conduct on Batlefield Executions. If the admin thought we were actually going to bomb the front, then other measures should’ve been taken, we were all on the Almayer and could’ve been arrested, if any of us were perceived to be a threat to other marines, but we clearly were not, again, especially Diaz.

Whilst our conduct wasn’t the best, especially my own, it all could’ve been handled IC in a far less violent manner and I believe the way the CO handled the situation to be directly at odds with the spirit of the WL and I hope that this incident serves to have your WL status penalised as while our conduct was inappropriate, so was yours.

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Heya! Thank you for your report, @CampinKiller!

I must say that very similar incident also happened in the following round which is round 23912, so we had to take an action before handling the player report.

For this one, I checked the logs and I saw that Edward Diaz and Caleb Bloodworth was harassing the CO and was in sabotaging behaviour. Edward was talking about blowing up the front and Caleb was insulting the CO for two rounds in a row as we can also see in the screenshots just because the CO denied their Echo Squad request. Commanders can deny Echo Squad requests without any reason, that is not against the rules and not a valid argument to harass them.

Your character does not want to call their Commanding Officer those insults, and your character does not want to blow up the front or even talking about that in their radio, knowing that what will happen next, that was pretty LRP and was against Rule 2. Considering players’ statements and this happened two rounds in a row, we believe that was targeted harassment and was against Rule 3. I will be issuing a Warning to Edward Diaz and Caleb Bloodworth’s players. We don’t believe Alexei’s player did something against the rules therefore we won’t take an action for them. Report approved.

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Added report:approved and removed report:needverdict


CO Council Addendum


We’ve examined the Battlefield Execution and have come to the conclusion that it is a Proper Battlefield Execution

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