CampinKiller - Whitelist Report: Daniel K. Trautman, As a Fax Responder you are expected to main professionalism at all times.

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CampinKiller - Whitelist Report: Daniel K. Trautman, As a Fax Responder you are expected to main professionalism at all times.

What’s your BYOND key?

CampinKiller

Round ID:

28920

Your character name:

Kara Walker

Accused BYOND key:

Stinvals

Accused character name:

Daniel K. Trautman

What rule(s) were broken?:

As a Fax Responder you are expected to main professionalism at all times.

Whitelist in question:

Fax Responder

Description of the incident:

Stinvals (as HC Fax Responder) maliciously inserted themselves into roleplay initiated by another fax responder that was not violating any ML/SOP, baiting the involved personnel with a fax calling them an ‘embarrassment’ to the USCM for going along with the W-Y responder’s request, amongst other unprofessional and bait faxes. This resulted in the arrest of the CMP on a charge of DASO and a Provost being dispatched, completely derailing the W-Y roleplay, and the CIC, because Stinvals wanted to flex a bit of power. It should be noted that, as far as I’m aware, nobody reported anything to HC or Provost regarding the W-Y roleplay (which again, was not violating ML or SOP, as nobody was arrested, it was literally just yapping), and nobody reported Jones’ commentary to them either, so they solely obtained information on the activities that he insulted the entire CIC staff for from their observation eye. There were no status requests or any such, as far as I’m aware, sent to High Command, they simply did this on their own accord.

Evidence:

Others involved presumably have screenshots of the faxes

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Hi there I was an MP in this round. One of the faxes in question.

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Unfortunately this is one of the only faxes I have on hand. Personally I felt that the fax situation that round went fully overboard with continuous high priority faxes that read very antagonistically.

Fax responders are there to improve the round by giving players a hook for RP and another voice at the end of the line. I don’t feel this FR’s way of handling faxes at all incentivizes players to interact with the role and is contributing to the role’s decline.

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As my name was on the fax, i’ll provide my part of story:
I was doing req stuffs, when I heard over comms that there was a priority fax coming. I asked Chen what happened and went to CL office. When I got there the CMP, Alan Jones, was asking the CL on why he wrote a fax with his blood and stuffs (sorry I didn’t care much). And the most me, the ASO - Chen, and CE - Kara, involved was listening and talking non relevant stuffs. And since there was no CMO, CMP asked ASO if there was anyone capable to do mental eval on CL. The situation ended there as ASO ran to find someone from medbay to do mental eval, and I had to return to req for drops.
TL;DR I don’t see how or why was I involved in the fax and “be an embarrassment to the corps”.

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Hello. I do wish to clarify the situation a bit.

The situation started with the original fax message from me. I did not specify what requests was carried out, and merely stated that it is unbecoming of the crew to run errands for W-Y. I did not intend to “bait” anyone in the slightest. It was done after the participants vacated the CL’s office (as I checked before sending the fax). It had no consequences for the participants either, as I did not warrant any punishments. And it was not worded as offensively as you are painting it to be.
The role of a fax responder is to add life to the world. Not be a static character. I am not an evil clone of Crimson, who has an evil purpose purpose of antagonizing crew.

The arrest of the CMP by the Provost team was not connected to the SOP breach or the W-Y matter (although the W-Y responder did want CMP behind bars). The complaint about the SOP breach was sent after the initinal warrant was sent, by… the W-Y fax responder, and was handled separately. No one was even punished for it.

No, the arrest was connected to a different matter, of which the original topic starter did not testify about, nor any of the witnesses so far. The CMP sent a reply to High Command regarding the message. It was somewhat contentious, but I had no problem with it. Until I checked the signature.

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No, I do not know how you are to blame the fax responder for this, stating the I “baited” someone into this. I honestly usually exercise little to no power on marines, but are you expecting High Command to ignore a Senior Officer sending them a penis drawing, let alone the Chief Military Police?

QM too sent a provocative fax to High Command. But it did not contain any naughtly drawings, and I did not feel offended by it, so it was ignored.

So, I started writing a warrant. In the process of doing it, I decided to ahelp and warn staff about what I’m about to do (even though I am not really required to do so unless it’s a CO arrest). @NessiePendragon answered and told me he is sending a Provost team in, which I did not request. I did not call the Marshals.

After that, it all went as you expect. Provost inspector shows up, arrests the CMP. Funnily enough, the Provost inspector applied more severe charges than what I have listed in the Warrant. DASO and Neglect of Duty instead of DASO and hooliganism.

So in retrospective. I believe that most of the commotion is because for some reason there is “notadditional notes” field on the arrest warrant. Thus, most of the participants did not actually know what for the CMP was arrested for, and just assumed the fax guy issued a warrant for nothing? Don’t know. I honestly don’t know how we came to the SS13 equivalent of “someone sends a DICK message to Central Command and gets obliterated by bluespace artillery”, but instead of a clown the one doing it was Head of Security.

Here is a more complete compilation of my screenshots.

In the end. I see where some misunderstandings might have arose, with me acting a bit harshly in the very first fax message, and apologize for it. Personally, I found the whole affair to be actually quite funny, and do not hold any anger for anyone involved.

P.S. You might want to check my ticket logs with @NessiePendragon. We had a conversation on the matter as well during the round.

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As a Fax Responder your sole duty is to answer faxes sent to the faction you are representing. That’s directly from the wikipedia guidelines for responders. It also says you may ask for status updates. The crux of the issue isn’t the CMP’s DASO arrest, but the fact that you sent unneeded and antagonistic faxes to command staff for engaging in roleplay initiated by another fax responder.

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Lmao, this just says Alan Jones, but it’s just written in cursive sanskirt.

On a more serious note, I think the point that’s the report is trying to make is not about the charges or the provost team. I personally hold no hard feelings on that.

The point here is about the original fax that came in from HC, calling the ASO and three heads of departments an “embarrasment to the corps” for following through with WY requests.

The context on the WY request and the fax received from them is as follows:

Previously on the round the CL was arrested for putting listening devices in the CIC. This was reported to WY Directorate. When the CL was arrested his behavior was rather weird and raised questions in the MP team. The fax WY sent us said he had also reported to WY to be “using the pen to cut his fingertips to make the color blood red” and asked us to keep an eye on him or perform a mental eval.

The request in question was a mental eval of the CL who was in fact behaving quite weird the entire round, with things such as self-denial and disregard for self. And as the CMP, I carried on with the request to do a sanity check using an appointed doctor, at the lack of a Synth or CMO. Again everything here is fine.
(the colony PMC synth was just being recovered at the time I believe, so I discounted that option also as its not in our crew manifest.).

Evaluation was done, CL was deemed sane and not a threat on board.

We concurred with the fax to make sure the CL is fine. Eval was done, documented, and he was deemed fit for duty.

Up to this point there have been no incidents. No correspondence has been exchanged between the Almayer Command and the high command or the provost office.

Now here are my questions for you.

  • Why was the HC involved in a case with no previous report or communication being sent to HC?

  • Why is performing a psych eval on a person displaying strange or somewhat unstable behavior (self-denial, cutting fingers to write in “blood red”) “an embarrassment to the corps”? Whether at the request of WY or not, as a CMP I found this concerning and something that could be a problem later on.

  • Why is conducting a psych eval with the well-being of the crew in mind, an “embarrassment to the corps” or assumed as something we are doing to “cause inconvenience the CL much to our liking”? What is the reason behind the snark in these comments?

So then, the original point of the report here is very simple:
Without any previous report or correspondence to HC.
Without any solid reason of misconduct or unusual activity.

Why was this fax sent in the first place?

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As the Provost inspector in question, the reason for our arrest of the CMP had nothing to do with the faxes related to W-Y or the liason. It was solely because of the dick signature, and nothing else. The NOD charge was applied incorrectly by Oswald (who was the one with the CMP’s ID on the brig console), mostly because of a miscommunication on my part that I did try to correct at first, but ended up losing focus of. Hope this clears up why we were there in the first place.

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Heya, @CampinKiller thank you for your report.

I already talked to the responder in question. I would like to clarify that we would like Fax Responders to avoid being too invasive in situations like this. Potential rule violations like a CMP possibly acting against SOP, which would be a breach of server rules, should first be reported to staff.

As for the Provost ERT, that wasn’t sent in response to the Responder’s request. It was entirely my own decision. After seeing that funny-funny signed fax, I just couldn’t resist the urge to bonk the CMP with a stick, DASO, because, that’s not the kind of fax you want to send to your superior. Other than that, as I said, I already talked to the Responder in question when this happened. Thank you for sharing your concerns.

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