Can we talk about how absolutely bloated the M10 is compared to literally every other gun in the game?

EXTENDED AP MAGS. Extended. AP. Mags.

Name ONE other gun in the entire game that has extended AP magazines. I’ll wait. You can’t, because only the M10 has them. Why does a sidearm get a completely unique magazine type that no other weapon in the arsenal has access to?

And why does it have like 6+ attachments that only work on the M10? No other weapon has this many unique attachments that serve zero purpose outside of that one gun. It’s pure bloat. For a “sidearm” it has more customization options than half the primary weapons in the game.

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Tbf outside of the stocks it’s only unique attachment is the M10 compensator. And the ‘M10 Compensator but also a bayonet’
Only the M37 fits the shotgun choke AFIAK.

The other attachies it gets can fit on other weapons AFIAK.
Maybe not the micro laser cause I don’t remember putting it on a pistol but I CBA to look ATM.
EDIT: It’s later, and i checked, only the M10 fits the micro laser.

It also has drum mags that are hiding in the black market RNG ATM.

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That’s another weird thing about the m10, the cloned attachments for it like the micro red dot and laser

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M10 isn’t a sidearm, it is an SMG alternative to the M39 that just so happen to be able to serve as a sidearm if you so choose -and you shouldn’t because its fucking garbo as a handgun.

The attachments work on other guns.

Extended AP mags are not this crazy thing, you need the entire mag to kill anything. like. the entire mag. I constantly reload my M10 because i know if im 75%~ a mag, im going to reload mid kill.

This entire post shouts I don’t know shit about the M10, don’t use it, and don’t like it.

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In reality though the extended mags are just the regular mags, considering how quickly you’ll burn through the regular ones. The Drum ones are actually extended ones. Which yeah you can’t get normally.

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Why call it bloat when people can just add a similar amount of attachments and cool stuff to other guns instead of removing cool and unique stuff.

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You could slap all the attachments and an ext ap mag on a M10 and it still can’t kill a thing because the damage and accuracy of M10 is so ass

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Idk what you guys are on, the thing is an absolute beast in CQC. The damage profile within its effective range is essentially an M39 but slightly better, add the M10 recoil comp (auto-pick attachment) and the M10 maintains a comfortable lead for most targets within 3 tiles. It’s basically an SMG but smaller and with better ammo economy, albeit with much, much worse falloff and range. Its a sub-sub-machine gun.


The M10 is not weak. It’s a specialised gun for a specific niche, and it outcompetes almost everything in that niche. Obviously, once you start using it beyond 3 tiles it instantly degrades into a dogshit weapon (7.7 falloff). Accuracy and scatter is a non issue within those 3 tiles since you’ve attached the laser, a reflex/microdot, the m10 stock, and the recoil comp.

In addition, it’s compact as hell and you can carry quite a lot of ammunition.
You can’t only use an SMG belt because it only holds 2 mags, but you absolutely can wing it on an M10 belt since that holds 7 mags. It’s still pistol-tier and outclassed by other primary weapons due to it’s horrible versatility, but it’s very, very strong at what it does.

Runners, lurkers and such just fuck off when you spray this bad boy, because if they get close they’ll just melt. 0.9s runner TTK my beloved, it’s funny as fuck to whip it out on a runner in CQC and watch it instant-die.

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Acid goop is next door.

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Bloat is fake + it’s unfortunate no one wants to make fun options for all the other guns :frowning:

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false. demonstrably so. press z to wield your gun.

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Yea. I wish there were more atachments like shotgun choke, barrell charger and bipods. They offer you strong sidegrades but also punish you harshy if you dont use them properly

Most of our most popular atachments is just: +micro benefit -micro drawback (hello AG,S6 and EB)

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True. I wish there were more attachments which greatly change how a gun plays and performs, would be cool. :+1:

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This seems a little like Acid Goop.

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most of the time, i use it to open doors so I can shoot BGEL into the rooms LOL, ive swapped to the mod88 lately

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Unless someone can propose attachments that can drastically change any specific gun playstyle. But I’m incompetent.

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“Heavy barrel” for any automatic primary gun, most likely HPR. It makes accuracy, scatter and recoil dogshit at first, but the longer you fire, the better it gets. The opposite of what you usually are supposed to do with Mk2, or HPR, which is short controlled bursts. A neat sidegrade which would be obviously telegraphed to xenos, with a counter being just waiting till you run out of ammo.

“Belt fed mechanism” for Mk2. No longer accepts any magazine, needs to have either regular pulse rifle ammo box on back slot/IMP rack (or special belts with ammo). This could encroach a bit too much into HPR territory, but could make it scatter and recoil a lot, so it would be more of a resin wall breaker and pure suppression gun.

“Heat shield” for a shotgun. Massively increases melee damage of a shotgun, in combination with a stock and bayonet breaks even hard resin walls in like 3 swings at best. Increases buckshot and flechette spread, increases range of pushing “small” xenos away from one to two tiles, pushes “big” xenos away for one tile, but without any stun.

“Threaded barrel” for a shotgun. Increases accuracy, reduces recoil and scatter, speeds up the projectile, but if used with buckshot, or flechette increases their spread. Dedicated slug attachement.

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That is quite busted.

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And so the M10 was nerfed, and many xenos rejoiced, thus unto frontliners

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It is also not the only weapon with snowflake attachments. The M41, M39, Mk1, mouse, and xm88 also get snowflake attachments and we’ve been living with it just fine for years.

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