The metaba it self is not as scary as people think. It has very limited ammo and can stun but with out the BE skill it’s basically the equivalent of impact rounds for spec. Personally I really dislike that CO is a whitelist role I understand why I it is but it’s not needed. There is easy fix to it remove the COs ability to battlefield execute people as one MPS EXIST FOR A REASON and BEs are replacing them. Now next thing medal create a guideline of when they should be given out. Now time lock it to like 200 hours as XO so that if they are playing they role they know how as the role is locked to a very high degree that they at that point should know the rules. I don’t think removing the CO gun would change much and CO, XOs get targeted anyway.
I think we shouldn’t take suggestions from someone with no command hours who is currently perma’d from the server.
This thread officially wins the title of slop thread of the month though.
CO is way more than BEs and medals. The CO has a massive amount of influence over how a round plays out and is actually filtered unlike XOs, who can range from very good to griefing. COs who don’t uphold standards find themselves sanctioned by the council. XOs who don’t uphold standards can toe the line for a long time until they are finally job banned. You know as well as anyone else that MPs do not always exist, and sometimes people deserve to catch a bullet to the dome and be round removed (like the guy who emoted zooming in on my ass with a camera in CIC). Anyway, rather interesting you ‘dislike that CO is whitelisted’ when you’ve applied 3 times to be a CO.
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Fun thing is, it kinda is.
XO is the aCO after all. Unless a CO is on the vessel, they have all* the powers the CO would have.
The main diffrence is their gear really. The guns and clothes and shit.
And the whole “WL are mid - good at RP”. But most XOs and COs are kinda the same quality wise.
Lots XOs players are COs yet to be after all. Same type of players and all.
CO is only good because it is a whitelist, making it a guaranteed XO+ slot if you mid or late join and want to command but do not want to be a SO.
Yeah they get BE and a cool gun but ultimately you are literally just XO+ at the end of the day and are listened to more because people recognize your name (sorry but even if you have a Major whitelist, if you flag on a random name Major, there WILL be people who will NOT listen to you, thats just how it is, same thing with GySgt no name SL’s).
The only reason TGMC (for comparison) doesn’t have a whitelist for Captains is because they have a Field Commander role thats literally just what half the CO whitelist does; deploying with the troops and using their big voice to lead the ungaball.
Whitelist council would never allow such a thing, that is one.
Two is that 50 hours grinding XO for one round of CO? You just get Mateba, protag gun, BE and pardon rights and some other stuff on top of what XO already does. Around 25-50 XO rounds. All of that for 1-2 hours of having that. Worthless.
Three was mentioned before, Preds have too many rules to follow.
There is however something that could be done.
Roundstart thrall for predators role. Doesn’t step on whitelist and being a human with the most basic pred gear won’t give you the ability to affect the round much, so there is no need for OOC pred rules for thralls.
Events should be more leeway for synth roles. Whole point of Synth combat rules is that they are supposed to focus on support and are better than singular xenos. If it is an event where Combat synths are in, what is the point of having a whitelist then, when you ignore all of the those rules anyway?
Timelocking a role behind platinuming another role is silly. That’s gatekeeping CO behind significantly higher requirements than the council has now. I had to put in like fifty hours before I got mine.
Neutering CO and giving it exclusively to people who are willing to and have the time to obsessively grind is all but guaranteed to make it available to only the most eccentric players and make it spectacularly less interesting.
XO for one is below CMP on Marine Law authority (for good reason)
so if a shitter XO demands you arrest someone for something petty, you can tell them to eat a brick and kick rocks
CO basically IS THE LAW (barring the big Marshal Daddy) because they EARNED that right by showing they are a competent leader and hopefully know enough law to applicate it correctly
