Imagine comparing some dictator to the host of a 2d spessman game you can escape from by plugging out your computer.
i more meant someone leaking info to corrupt law enforcement but okay
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I am vocally opposed to the goofy ass hugboxing that has been ongoing. It is dumb that management is passing more and more rules to ensure that the “community” is safe. It is bullshit and I could quote you endlessly about trading freedom for the illusion of safety.
Because the people who are so sensative they cant see a slur without calling a hotline will NEVER STOP PUSHING. They NEVER stop finding new things to be offended by or uncomfortable by. That is what happens when you are soft. Once you open the door to banning for offense it never ends. And pass me by with all your slippery slope bullshit. You quote that fallacy to me while actively pushing to ban more shit.
But I understand WHY they are doing it. These same weak people have endless time (mostly because they are losers) to police others, dox, and bitch on the internet. Understandably management would rather piss off the normal people because we just want to shoot xenos and dont give a fuck and wont actively try to ruin their lives for changes. Weak people win by whining the hardest.
I like frozen as a host because the box is up, works, and shit is stable. I wish management would grow a spine, declare this not a safe space and permaban anyone who cries and tries to censor shit but the flak and fallout for doing so on a free game isnt worth the effort.
We need a host that is as big a “loser” as these whiners to spend all day permaing people and overseeing shit. Alas having a job and hosting go hand in hand.
Its just going to get to a point where there are so many rules that they are impossible to enforce… everyone burns out and the system is thrown out when the reins change hands.
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I like frozen as a host because the box is up, works, and shit is stable. I wish management would grow a spine, declare this not a safe space and permaban anyone who cries and tries to censor shit but the flak and fallout for doing so on a free game isnt worth the effort.
Dude all of the slur bans etc. have always come from management.
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I don’t get the point here? The people who make the rules of the server are… making the rules of the server?
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Yes, and the people playing on said server is in disagreement with the rules added, and how there is no real leadup to said added rules.
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This is the most braindead and ignorant post about this drama so far 
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Your post reads like satire.
You cannot be real.
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Careful Murph, that’s bannable.
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“I wish management would permaban anybody who disagrees with me”
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Yes I know, perhaps my statement was too long
I wish the position of managment was to enforce harassment, but any rule on “naughty words” goes out the window (like the old days).
If a player is so weak of a person that seeing a marine call another marine “gay” causes them distress, they should deal with it or leave.
Management has folded to these people because they whine the loudest and its easier to ban normal people who will be reasonable; than argue with whiners who will dox you and ruin your life out of victimhood.
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You know what, you are right.
Anyone should be allowed to suggest we ban naughty words. Thats the point. We shouldnt police stupid or offensive ideas. And policing words is even more arbitrary and pointless.
But the policy should be to tell you you are an adult and to grow a spine.
If they insist on being a victim, then ban them.
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Honest question, not trying to own-zone you or anybody else who replies, or to try and drag-out screenshottable replies I can post to some digital warren of my fellow culture warriors for sympathy points:
- What value do slurs, or demeaning comments add to the game that is lost by their exclusion?
- What is downsides are there to having a wider community do draw from?
Out of respect, I’ll answer first to explain more on what I mean.
Firstly: I used to be a keyboard warrior who was upset with Bad Words because they’re Evil, like some kinda fantasy system where if you put a certain arrangement of runes in the right order you’d release a toxic gas that turns your blood into pond scum or whatever. After taking some more time to mature and getting laid for the first time in two years, I realized that kind of no-no language is just some combination of either unhelpful or coy.
So, say someone gets into the game. Maybe they’re new, or haven’t played in a while, and didn’t notice the change where priming a grenade automatically toggles throw mode. So they prime a grenade, hit throw, hold onto it, and blast five people behind cades with it. So, naturally, someone calls them an absolute fucking retail worker. The person who made the mistake already knows what they did was retaaining walled because they exploded, but doesn’t have any more knowledge on how to fix it in the future any instead of patching wounds and welding the damaged cades, their peers are spending that time insulting them.
What does this do but provide the offended party a moment of catharsis as their teammate either stays just as useless/harmful/uninfomred at best, or plant the seed of spite in them early so they either repeat the cycle or are even less willing to work with anybody in a team-based game because they either don’t trust them or don’t want to get insulted again?
Secondly, The Wokes™ or even less-aligned normies are important to have in a gaming ecosystem. Firstly it means more players which means more server staff so the same twelve people don’t need to deal with your bullshit every day until they specifically grow a resentment against you, it’s more potential contributors, it’s more strategies and theory-crafting to introduce into the META, and so-on. In a game that doesn’t focus around trying to help a politician get elected on the campaign trail: that’s just an absolute win.
As for “finding new things to get worried about”: they’re not new. I’m not sure if you’ve gotten a better-paying job or a partner/roommate that could help cover costs, but at least for me it became a matter of fixing that big problem that’s been hanging over you for a while and is the reason you were looking for more cash in the first place, and then recognizing everything else you just rolled with because you couldn’t afford to care about it. “Wow, I can pay rent now: maybe I can check in on that weird sound my car’s been making too.” “Now that I got my debt handled, maybe I can see a dentist about that toothache.” Same deal with “Wow, the ching-chong accents and stereotypes are pretty rough. Now that we’ve dealt with those, maybe we could handle the racial slurs too.” “I’m a queer person with a mental disability. Now that people can’t call me a fancy feast, maybe we could stop calling people insults based on my disability now.” Everybody experiences that, and snowflakes aren’t too different from anybody else just because some “tougher” people either solved those needs a while ago, or are still deep enough in survival mode that an empty fridge or long-term injury still outranks feeling emasculated when they’re told to “man-up” when they get emotional about the tough things in their lives.
It’s one thing if you were playing Dark Tide, Halo, Helldivers, Elden Ring, or so-on where you could theoretically fill a squad out with just your 3-6 friends you vibe with, but you don’t have the same balance and restrictions in place for an MMO. It’s a collaborative work, and trying to draw a line at what helps too many people get into a team project is just inherently nonsensical.
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In my opinion, certain slurs aren’t even slurs anymore. Like i can see Nigeria and British Cigarette being targeted slurs, and will only really be used in a racist/bigoted manner. But Retrograde, Mormon, Brainanurysm just dosn’t feel like slurs directed at those people anymore. They have just become something akin to stupid, but more heavily stanced. Like how you don’t just say nice, but you say beautifull.
And bringing in more people is a double edged sword in my opinion, as it will eventually create cliques between the player base. Especially so if you are really going for new people and try to acomadate them further. Like you can see a lot of the old DnD community get alienated from newer edtion, with their rollbacks, simplification, and (accidental) racism. Hell, i’m really fucking feeling it about WH 10th edtion, where they made everything as simple as possible to make it more newbie friendly.
TL:DR: I don’t care if someone calls me a slur, even when i’m one of the ones being affected by it. And making everything friendly for everyone will turn itself into being unfriendly for everyone.
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You know you’re winning an argument when they start attacking you instead of your points.
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There is no points in arguing because people like you never want to change, you only cry and demand until we comply. go ahead write your essay now.
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Its called Nuance Murph. Its putting your cards fully on the table and not obscuring it.
IT is pretty funny though that it does fall in line with the
“leftist cannot argue without an essay” meme though
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In my own defense - please feel free to defend me, I am fragile - that was just me explaining my own thinking. Otherwise the actionable section of the post was as short as
At which point, my “essay” is just three more lines than any response to it.
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If you are fragile, then toughen up. Everyone is born fragile, but only those who do not put in the effort stay fragile. That is my honest advice for both online and real life.
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Not a gotcha. I was just trying to point out that I don’t think the original post was not targeted at staff, but management.