DanielHoc - Staff Report: Enforcement Action Taken - firecharge

DanielHoc - Staff Report: Enforcement Action Taken - firecharge

What’s your BYOND key:

DanielHoc

Round ID:

I was given the note on this date: 2023-05-22 13:59:28 (I think the round ended like an hour later, it was trijent)

Your character name:

Prime Empress

Their BYOND key:

firecharge

What are you reporting?:

Enforcement Action Taken

Description of the incident:

I was queen that round, and at that time I was on ovipostor coordinating xenos. Pyro specialist got grabbed by warrior and killed so I ordered him and few others to hold around the pyro’s body. I was later PMed by firecharge, after brief conversation he told me that it is metagaming and noted me.

I have seen a lot of people tacticaly holding marine’s bodies for few minutes just to make sure they go perma dead and I have never seen anyone noted/warned for it.

As a xeno you can see that marines are reviving only fresh killed people so in my opinion you can use that as IC knowledge. (If this is indeed metagaming I would be glad to see it clarified in the discord).

Evidence:

Warned for metagaming - As a queen was using metaknowledge information about permanent death timers in game to prevent Pyro Spec from being revived. Hivemind, Prime Empress(F) (E) hisses, ‘You reckon pyro is dead?’ Hivemind, Prime Empress(F) (E) hisses, ‘Like gone gone?’ Hivemind, Prime Empress(F) (E) hisses, ‘Ehh, lets give him two more minutes’ by firecharge123 (Admin) on 2023-05-22 13:59:28

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Logs of the incident

Firecharge123
DanielHoc

DanielHoc referring to the pyro going perma

HIVEMIND: DanielHoc/(Prime Empress) : Pyro dead
HIVEMIND: DanielHoc/(Prime Empress) : Dont push that
HIVEMIND: DanielHoc/(Prime Empress) : Just hold pyro
HIVEMIND: DanielHoc/(Prime Empress) : Hold the pyro
HIVEMIND: DanielHoc/(Prime Empress) : You reckon pyro is dead?
HIVEMIND: DanielHoc/(Prime Empress) : Like gone gone?
HIVEMIND: DanielHoc/(Prime Empress) : Ehh, lets give him two more minutes

At this point a DanielHoc was ahelped and Firecharge123 reached out

Firecharge123 contacting DanielHoc

ADMIN: PM: Firecharge123->DanielHoc/(Prime Empress): Hey there, got a moment?

ADMIN: PM: DanielHoc/(Prime Empress)->Firecharge123: Yes

ADMIN: PM: Firecharge123->DanielHoc/(Prime Empress): A little while ago you were hiveminding information about the pyro spec dying and preventing them from being revived- more specifically referencing about them having a permanent death timer and waiting to make sure it expired Hivemind, Prime Empress(F) (E) hisses, ‘You reckon pyro is dead?’ Hivemind, Prime Empress(F) (E) hisses, ‘Like gone gone?’ Hivemind, Prime Empress(F) (E) hisses, ‘Ehh, lets give him two more minutes’ Stuff like this is not knowable knowledge for xenomorphs and is considered metainformation

ADMIN: PM: DanielHoc/(Prime Empress)->Firecharge123: Is it? I have seen xenos do that a lot, well then i will refrain from using it in the future

ADMIN: PM: Firecharge123->DanielHoc/(Prime Empress): Yep, information regarding game mechanics, human mechanics beyond what you can physically see ICly is metainformation IE, information about permanent death. When a marine dies, xenos just see them as dead and no more. Thank you

ADMIN: PM: DanielHoc/(Prime Empress)->Firecharge123: Will keep that in mind for the future

ADMIN: PM: Firecharge123->DanielHoc/(Prime Empress): You will be recieving a note/warning for Metagaming by the way

ADMIN: PM: DanielHoc/(Prime Empress)->Firecharge123: I wouldnt call it metagaming, but you do you, thx for help and have a nice day

After this the note is applied and the ticket is closed

Firecharge was correct in his enforcement of the rules. Xenos only see corpses as corpses, and nothing more.

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