diegoflores31 - Staff Report: Enforcement Action Taken - LynxSolstice
What’s your BYOND key:
diegoflores31
Round ID:
17122
Your character name:
Diego_Flores
Their BYOND key:
LynxSolstice
What are you reporting?:
Enforcement Action Taken
Description of the incident:
Banned for Rule 4 . Griefing . “Rule 4, as a researcher without notifying command, purchased a techbuy “just because.” Player was told to contact command next time.”
I was a researcher and i was developing a Flamer fuel mix . Ground was loosing at the moment and i just looked at the status of the techweb and saw there were just enought points for foxtrot ( like 11.44 aprox if i remember correctly) IOs were kinda dead and Tier 4 was not even unlocked . I had an idea to buy foxtrot so i could give the spec the flamer mix to kill xenos . for some reason foxtrot just spawned 2 medics and a SL so i could not give them the stuff i wanted . after hijack happened . i got PMed saying I Cant buy techweb as a researcher despite being a intended mechanic and that i GRIEFED marines.
I explained that IOs were gone (dead) . nuke was too far away (aprox 15 points away) and there was no way that marine could have gotten the points for buy a nuke . Then i was told CO ordered that nobody buys points . i replied that he probably did so in Command Comms that researchers dont have since i didnt saw the message.
I was told that suddently researchers are not allowed to buy from techweb and that i need a IC justification to do so ? . I did not buy foxtrot out of malice and was for a specific reason which did not work out i guess because no ghost available or maybe RNG . and i think aplying a ban and placing a note basically saying i am a griefer its not a good enforcement of the rules .
Evidence:
logs i guess
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I remember being in this round and people screaming about it in dchat as grief.
Marines didn’t have anywhere near the forces to man the FOB, and two relays. Nor did they have the metal to fortify either. They were also points away from a req budget buy or OB buys. They did not accrue enough points to get either anyway if they hadn’t spent the Tech points on Foxtrot before evac occurred.
Foxtrot is a touch-and-go tech that is completely based on “please god enough perma people please still be observing and not joined as Xeno.” However, picking it and getting a bad result isn’t griefing. That’s like treating someone who did a bad nade as a griefer.
The player wasn’t informed of orders because for some god-forsaken reason Researchers are officers without having access to CIC comms. There is no rule as far as I understand it that bars someone from research using tech points, and nor was this an instance of intentional griefing. I doubt Diego would ever intend something as malicious as such.
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Accused - LynxSolstice
Reporter - Diegoflores31
Announcement and talk about nuke
[2023-06-02 22:46:42.305] ANNOUNCEMENT: Ela A.W. Longbow has announced the following:
delta pushed into medbay
be careful queen should be in the hive and more T2s and T3s will quickly come
grab and bodies and send them back to the LZ or fulton, we need some points for a nuke
[2023-06-02 22:49:57.067] SAY: Zack Rush [Command]: Doing down on plant side to get more papers to get more points so you can nuke (JOB: Intelligence Officer)
[2023-06-02 22:52:08.214] SAY: John ‘Justice’ Jackson [Command]: We’re savin’ for a nuke, Kench. (JOB: Commanding Officer)
[2023-06-02 22:53:56.658] SAY: Tina J. Kench [JTAC]: CAS going down, but we do have ammo. We’re saving for a nuke with intel so we only have two runs as of now. (JOB: Pilot Officer)
Cryorines Purchased
[2023-06-02 22:55:34.806] ADMIN: Diegoflores31 has bought ‘Wake Up Additional Troops’ via tech points.
Ticket conversation
[2023-06-02 23:21:55.375] ADMIN: PM: LynxSolstice → Diegoflores31: Hey there. Why did you buy Foxtrot?
[2023-06-02 23:22:16.180] ADMIN: PM: Diegoflores31 → LynxSolstice: because nobody was using the points and i have access
[2023-06-02 23:23:02.721] ADMIN: PM: LynxSolstice → Diegoflores31: The CO and SOs said to “not buy anything” because they were preparing for a nuke. Having access isn’t a valid IC reason to disregard that.
[2023-06-02 23:23:19.670] ADMIN: PM: Diegoflores31 → LynxSolstice: they never had points for nuke . you can verify that
[2023-06-02 23:24:00.097] ADMIN: PM: LynxSolstice → Diegoflores31: The point is you disregarded orders and purchased Foxtrot.
[2023-06-02 23:24:17.790] ADMIN: PM: Diegoflores31 → LynxSolstice: i didnt saw that order . he prob used command comms which i dont have
[2023-06-02 23:26:34.238] ADMIN: PM: LynxSolstice → Diegoflores31: As a researcher, there’s no reason you should be touching the tech tree at all.
[2023-06-02 23:27:25.324] ADMIN: PM: Diegoflores31 → LynxSolstice: I have access to the tree . i am mechanically allowed to unless its ruled otherwise on #rule clarifications .
[2023-06-02 23:27:54.249] ADMIN: PM: Diegoflores31 → LynxSolstice: and IC allowed too as part of the Research - IO dept
[2023-06-02 23:28:24.262] ADMIN: PM: LynxSolstice → Diegoflores31: Research is part of Medical, actually.
[2023-06-02 23:29:25.296] ADMIN: PM: Diegoflores31 → LynxSolstice: its part of IO too since it generates points. them having access is intentional
[2023-06-02 23:29:37.502] ADMIN: PM: LynxSolstice → Diegoflores31: Your reason to buy the foxtrot cryorines was “just because”?
[2023-06-02 23:30:25.326] ADMIN: PM: Diegoflores31 → LynxSolstice: I wanted to make a flamer army of marines and i saw it was impossible to get nuke at that moment so i just bought it since techweb is often forgotten with remaining points on it
[2023-06-02 23:30:54.086] ADMIN: PM: LynxSolstice → Diegoflores31: And you didn’t bother to check with Command at all if that would be okay?
[2023-06-02 23:30:57.758] ADMIN: PM: Diegoflores31 → LynxSolstice: remember you IOs were Death and ground was semi-lost at the moment
[2023-06-02 23:31:33.663] ADMIN: PM: Diegoflores31 → LynxSolstice: I did not ask command
[2023-06-02 23:33:27.334] ADMIN: PM: LynxSolstice → Diegoflores31: While you can access the tech tree mechanically, you made no effort to check if it was being used, you also had no valid IC reason beyond “just because”.
[2023-06-02 23:34:16.949] ADMIN: PM: Diegoflores31 → LynxSolstice: please explain why should i have not bought foxtrot on the situation that i just told you ?
[2023-06-02 23:35:09.550] ADMIN: PM: LynxSolstice → Diegoflores31: You shouldn’t be touching the tech tree without a valid IC reason to do so as it effects round flow.
[2023-06-02 23:35:43.424] ADMIN: PM: LynxSolstice → Diegoflores31: Next time, check with command first. You have a phone in the research office for a reason.
[2023-06-02 23:35:46.821] ADMIN: PM: Diegoflores31 → LynxSolstice: I can guarantee you it did not affect the round flow at all . they were 25 points away from nuke with both IOs Death
[2023-06-02 23:38:05.577] ADMIN: PM: LynxSolstice → Diegoflores31: Despite your intentions, this is a rule 4 break and I will be handing you a 3 hour ban for this infraction.
[2023-06-02 23:39:22.448] ADMIN: PM: Diegoflores31 → LynxSolstice: buying in tech web has never required IC justification ever . you are just enforcing new rules out of nowhere
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Blockquote Rule 4. No griefing
Griefing is the intent of one player wanting to cause grief or annoyance to other players or the server without a valid roleplay reason. If Staff believes that the player’s intent is to grief, then action will be taken whether or not it was the player’s intent.
Rules clearly say intent or not, if Command was trying to save points for a nuke, that was Command’s choice, you failed to ask Command. If they had given you a green light, it would be a non-issue. People made complaints over this, and it was investigated. No protocols were violated.