egorkor - Staff Report: Enforcement Action Taken - Silencer_pl

egorkor - Staff Report: Enforcement Action Taken - Silencer_pl

What’s your BYOND key:

egorkor

Round ID:

17566

Your character name:

Graham Maclagan

Their BYOND key:

Silencer_pl

What are you reporting?:

Enforcement Action Taken

Description of the incident:

After a day of work I had free time during the evening so I went XO. A plan was drafted, every SL briefed extensively and the drop made when I was unexpectedly asked by my nearest and dearest to run to the store opposite my house to buy one item. All in all this would take 15 minutes at the slowest walking pace, so I informed everyone on squad radio as well as via the announcements and told the SO to oversee things in my absence. Usually when I had to short-time AFK as XO or queen I also ahelped it out of courtesy since rules say nothing about it unless I leave the game for good - this time I did the same, except I was give a ‘cryo now or be force despawned’ reply by silencer. As I was dressing up I tried to argue the necessity of ruining my round over a mundane thing and kept getting the hoiler than thou replies, the latest of which I ignored because I left by then. Returning exactly 15 minutes later I found myself as a larva and my request to respawn me was denied because ‘I told you so. No.’ and the ticket was then autoclosed.

Based on the interaction I was led to believe the staffer has this fantasy that once you log into CM you should ignore things like going to the toilet or sudden phone calls or family matters for whatever reason, however rule 8 says I only need to cryo if I intend to leave the game for good, which I didn’t - my intention to remain was clearly telegraphed multiple times. I made every effort to soften my AFK period, down to giving my ID to the SO to make announcements, and since it happened literally as the drop went down, 15 minutes is not enough time for anything meaningful to happen that would require XO oversight - usually marines only begin their skirmish at that time.

Additionally, this isn’t the first time the staffer in question jumps with a hammer to ‘police’ mundane and banal things, so I also believe the code of conduct section (‘Preserve the RP and enjoyment of the server’) was broken.

All in all, I really don’t want to be dealing with a ‘rulebreak escalation jobban’ the next time I have to suddenly run to the shitter with tummyache or answer an urgent call or something like that, so if there’re any notes added I’d like them removed and this ‘incident’ not be taken into account going forward and maybe y’all can ‘have a stern talking-to’ with the staffer so their behavior improves.

Evidence:

Admin PM from-Silencer_pl: If you’re going to be gone for 15 minutes you shoudnt be on as a XO honeslty. PLease cryo.
Administrator private message –
Admin PM from-Silencer_pl: I am telling you that is not acceptable. Cryo yourself or I will force cryo you if you intend to leave for 15 minutes.
PM to-Admins: what if i ahd to take a shit? on jah you need to take these things easy, i’m done dressing and am out of the room so do whatever
Administrator private message –
Admin PM from-Silencer_pl: You wasted a good 5 minutes arguing against cryoing by itself. 15 minutes of afk time is enough to get you cryoed and noted if you do it on a key role and if IRL circusnsatnces do not allow you for the time commitment, its unfortunate, but you will not be just left to afk like this.

Rest of the logs can probably be found per the round ID, I didn’t save them all.

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There’s a difference between having to use the bathroom versus physically leaving your home to go to the store.

As you were not noted, there was no enforcement action taken, therefore no protocols were violated.

If you have to physically leave your home for an extended period of time, and you are in an important role, yes you need to cyro, or if you can’t it’s preferred you notify staff. If none of those happen, we usually will take into consideration someone contacting us after the fact with “Hey I lost internet” or “Hey I had emergency X happen.”

Full conversation between Silencer and Ego, just for the sake of proper logkeeping:

ADMIN: Ticket #4: Egorkor/(Graham Maclagan): brb 15 dont cryo or jobban me i gotta run to the store - heard by 3 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
ADMIN: Silencer_pl/(Cassandra Reed) has started replying to Egorkor's admin help.
ADMIN: PM: Silencer_pl/(Cassandra Reed)->Egorkor/(Graham Maclagan): If you’re going to be gone for 15 minutes you shoudnt be on as a XO honeslty. PLease cryo.
ADMIN: PM: Egorkor/(Graham Maclagan)->Silencer_pl/(Cassandra Reed): my evening was free and I had the time to play XO until my nearest and dearest politely asked me to run to the store next door to buy some apples, the rules say nothing about short-term AFKs like that and me ahelping this is nothing but a courtesy so you won’t throw a fit. i fail to see your point because it’s a less than 15 minute break
ADMIN: PM: Egorkor/(Graham Maclagan)->Silencer_pl/(Cassandra Reed): i sure hope the 5 paragraph ahelp i just sent actually sent too, im not seeing it in replies
ADMIN: PM: Silencer_pl/(Cassandra Reed)->Egorkor/(Graham Maclagan): 15 minutes is not a short term afk for the XO slot.
ADMIN: PM: Egorkor/(Graham Maclagan)->Silencer_pl/(Cassandra Reed): the store is literally next door and i don’t see anything going wrong in that short timespan
ADMIN: PM: Silencer_pl/(Cassandra Reed)->Egorkor/(Graham Maclagan): I am telling you that is not acceptable. Cryo yourself or I will force cryo you if you intend to leave for 15 minutes.
ADMIN: PM: Egorkor/(Graham Maclagan)->Silencer_pl/(Cassandra Reed): what if i ahd to take a shit? on jah you need to take these things easy, i’m done dressing and am out of the room so do whatever
ADMIN: Silencer_pl/(Cassandra Reed) sent Egorkor/(Graham Maclagan) (Executive Officer) to cryogenics.
ADMIN: PM: Silencer_pl/(Cassandra Reed)->Egorkor/(Larva (926)): You wasted a good 5 minutes arguing against cryoing by itself. 15 minutes of afk time is enough to get you cryoed and noted if you do it on a key role and if IRL circusnsatnces do not allow you for the time commitment, its unfortunate, but you will not be just left to afk like this.
ADMIN: Ticket #6: Egorkor/(Mature Larva (403)): as told i’ve returned less than 10 minutes later, i would like to be respawned so i can retake my XO slot since you chose to ignore me the last time
ADMIN: Silencer_pl/(Cassandra Reed) has started replying to Egorkor's admin help.
ADMIN: PM: Silencer_pl/(Cassandra Reed)->Egorkor/(Mature Larva (403)): No. You were told what to do and what I will do if you go afk at the time.