Grssh0le - Timed Ban Appeal

Grssh0le - Timed Ban Appeal

What’s your BYOND key?

Grssh0le

Character Name?

Axel Stern

Type of Ban?

Timed Ban

What is your Bancode?

N/A

Admin who banned you?

backsea

Total Ban Duration

7 days

Remaining Duration

7 days

What other servers do you play on?

/tg/ station Sybil and Manuel

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones?

N/A

Do you play using a Virtual Machine?

No

is your copy of Windows legitimate?

No

Reason for Ban:

“LRP, 18+ player wrote “penis” in the middle of briefing, usually the ban timer would be less but seeing as how its been 8 days since the last warning for a similar thing i belive this punishment is fitting.”

Links to previous appeals:

N/A

This is my first appeal for a ban on CM.

Your appeal:

This is an IC issue rather than an OOC issue

Heres what I understand happened:

  • I woke up as an SL (possibly why I was in trouble for the LRP ban but backsea doesn’t mentionthat in my ban reason)
  • I kitted up as usual and got stuff from requisitions
  • I head to briefing
  • as the CO was talking I noticed that someone passed crayons out and a red one was left on the floor in front of me
  • think about what to write out and come up with the funny sexual organ word
  • write it out while listening to CO, gains a few comments from my marines who found it entertaining, I don’t believe it distracted CO however or impeded the round in any way

I’m confused as to if this ban is for Rule 1 or Rule 2 reasons so ill try to discuss both.

RULE 1 BREAK:

I can understand where backsea came from with their referral to one of my previous notes that is “for a similar thing” but they fail to add the context that it was because I was warned for (if i remember it correctly) specifically rule 1 for sending faxes to CIC with the message “8====D PENIS!” and I definitely disagreed to the warning as it does not at all break rule 1, though I didn’t take any action against the admin ( whom if I remember correctly was also backsea) who filed it at the time because I thought it was just a one off thing with different admin responses to stuff due to environmental/personal causes because I’ve done the exact same thing (on a 2 times scale [two fax machines at once!]) before with no consequences, some sort of undocumented warning from admins, or even recognition, which I know isn’t fair to be used as an excuse for my actions, I’m more trying to explain that I truly thought I knew where the boundary roughly was so I could stay clear of it while also still being a bit edgy and dumb.

I hope that I can explain where I’m coming from thoroughly enough as I truly believed that crude shitty one-dimensional jokes of just saying “penis” are completely in the clear as is because they lack any at all sexual or descriptive nature and follow the general rule of thumb that it “would be allowed in a PG-13 rated movie in the USA*,” though do understand ultimately that it is under the discretion of staff to make a call on something like that. If that is the case should I file a staff report on action taken in order to get another admin to weigh in on this? Because I don’t know how I could because I need session ID and I wasn’t able to get that before I was banned, and I’m pretty sure it isn’t accessible now because I am banned from the server and I don’t know any other ways to obtain it.

*link to the quote of the rules that I cited (which may be old, I dont know): CM-SS13 Rules

RULE 2 BREAK:

If this is more of a LRP issue with me being SL and all, I’m sorry, I personally believed that SLs could engage in shenanigans as much as the marines they commanded as long as they got it together to actually lead them properly when the time comes. At one point I even deep dived through the paragraphs in rules, USCM SOP and even the SL wiki to see if there were any standards of seriousness that an SL was held up to like how it is with officers but I failed to find anything in regards to any of that. So I apologize for any lack of understanding, I just really thought that it was ok, and ill make sure not to again.

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Hello Grssh0le I will be handling your appeal today.

Your ban was primarily imposed due to Backsea’s determination that you broke Rule 1. As you correctly cited in our rules, staff members retain a significant degree of both longitude and latitude when dealing with Rule 1 violations. This range is provided as part of our commitment to protecting underage players on our server from exposure to 18+ sexual content.

If you have a dispute with the way certain rules are enforced, I urge you to take your concerns to the policy feedback section of our forums or politely DM a member of management on discord. Alternatively, if you believe a rule was not properly enforced, a staff report is the place to do it (although staff reports generally have to be submitted within 48 hours of the incident). In your case, I recommend messaging a member of management for any of the above paths of recourse you might decide to take.

As for your actual ban appeal:
You were “heavily warned” previously for sending what staff deemed to be inappropriate faxes, and then a few days later you did the thing for which you are now currently appealing a ban. Based on our policy of escalation and the gravity of your offense I am going to approve this appeal, and lift it as time-served. A week seemed a bit too strong for this offense.

With that said, unless policy is changed, staff continue to reserve a significant range of opinion to continue prosecuting violations of Rule 1, and so it is in your best interested to keep any such content far away from this server.

Your ban will be lifted in the next few minutes.

Added appeal:approved and removed appeal:waiting