Hahafunnyname - Staff Report: Enforcement Action Taken - ltnts

Hahafunnyname - Staff Report: Enforcement Action Taken - ltnts

What’s your BYOND key:

Hahafunnyname

Round ID:

23767

Your character name:

Luke McKendrick

Their BYOND key:

ltnts

What are you reporting?:

Enforcement Action Taken

Description of the incident:

Howdy, I want to start this off with how I have nothing against ltnts I just felt that their punishment for me was unjust and very unreasonable. After consulting with grim (15 not the 14 guy) I have decided to create a staff report and I will give my best shot at explaining why I believe it was unjust, that round as MP I had performed two LRP actions according to the ban report with them listed as “not wearing a hat and refusing orders to wear a hat” and “multiple LRP comments about freeing a prisoner.” For the first one I would like to say I felt the CMP was joking the first time he ordered me to put a hat on as he was acting as a drill sergeant type yelling at me to put a hat on or else I could lose my brain, I told him that I didn’t have a brain I was a marine and he simply said I can see that and went back to the CO who was doing an appeal if I recall correctly. The second time is funny, because there was no second time he had simply told me “I’m placing you under arrest for insubordination as you directly disobeyed my orders” (If I may say this CMP also was a second LT not a first LT meaning they had less than ten hours on CMP) I took this as a “put your hat on or else” so I put a MP baseball cap on but he warranted me for arrest and I stupidly backed up so he listed me with running away from police as well, the report also listed I did not understand marine law however I believe I know marine law very well and at most this incident could be listed as accidently breaking ML. I believe ltnts took this and thought I had been told multiple times to put my hat on, however I was only told once and in a goofy drill sergeant manner.

My second LRP reason listed is just dumb, yelling “Free him!” two or three times to a dude in a cell or a dude being arrested is not making comments about freeing someone that is arrested, its a joke that a lot of people in the community use when they see a convict being arrested or prisoner that is arrested. I made no attempt to free either of the convicts while acting as an MP however I understand that this is probably not super favorable behavior coming from an MP so I will stop doing this if my report is accepted. I also need to list my jailbreak, to explain it simply the warden was making me and the other prisoner fight after he had almost been tackled to the ground by the other prisoner and I had to save him (I guess in hopes I would beat the other prisoner up or something? I have no idea.) The other prisoner came up to me and said lets gang up on him and get out of here, this (if I read the rules correctly) was perfectly within good reason for a jailbreak so we tackled him, stole his card, and left brig into maint tunnels (he was caught soon after and I had to ghost due to IRL reasons but I was never caught while active in game, and yes normally I would have cryoed but I was kinda a convict in that situation.) To add even more to the ghosting I absolutely had to go and I hope my apology got to you ltnts but I think you were finished for the most part listing my punishment so I hope its good between us. I would also like to state I was being sort of rude to ltnts and again I must apologize, I was in a grumpy mood and I should have been more respectful because you just want to make sure I don’t ruin the experience for others but I swear that nothing I did had the intent to do harm to anyone and nothing I did really did any harm to anyone (Wardens card got stolen but again I believe this was legal as even ltnts did not mention it in the ban report and it was also returned like five minutes after being stolen because the other prisoner had it when they were caught.)

My last thing I would like to address is how ltnts claims that I did not understand that what I did was LRP, maybe my point came across wrong however I was just trying to say that what I did was not as bad as ltnts was telling me it was, what I did obviously contained hints of LRP but I wasnt going around trying to free prisoners with words alone, I didnt even know the CMP was being serious with the hat order and again while I have nothing against you ltnts I think you handled the situation very much incorrectly. Overall I know I performed some very light LRP but honestly a job ban from MP? Even the one day ban was pushing it in my opinion but I’m willing to accept it as its not super unfair, however I have no note history (iirc) on MP and one note from three weeks ago on researcher about making space drugs that is completely unrelated to MP in any way and you prevent me from playing MP ever again, I think that is ridiculous and after a quick read of the rules I can say that its not justified in any way, you job ban people from MP for killing prisoners for no reason and acting super unfair and cruel as well as being an idiot not for wearing a red bandana instead of a helmet and jokingly exclaiming “Free him!” because while it is stupid and while it is something they should be told not to do it very much does not warrant such a punishment without lots of repeated cases.

Thank you for taking the time to read my ramble and please know that if this report is accepted I will be a lot more mindful when playing MP and I honestly appreciate ltnts for making attempts at cleaning up the MPs because its pretty bad right now but I promise to all of you I am not apart of the problem and my crimes were overstated greatly.

Evidence:

I don’t have access to any logs or screenshots that I could use as evidence for my case. Attempted to see if I could join the game after my ban and see if some of last rounds text was there but it wasn’t so I have to leave it up to you guys to pull the logs.

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Hi, warden here.

I don’t entirely agree. Here’s what happened during this part:

Ace is the other prisoner in your report. For background, I’m very familiar with Ace, he seems to enjoy getting brigged and RPing with MPs, and I enjoy RPing with him in return. For example, a long time ago he managed to get my ID away from me and got out of brig. But then instead of leaving he broke back into brig just to be able to throw my ID to me and THEN leave (and as a result I caught him again shortly.) From that point on, I trusted his RP choices absolutely. He plays a wacky character at times, but he is absolutely not just “in it for himself”. Anyways…

  1. I enter the courtyard to RP with you and Ace - to discuss your charges, supervise you guys, etc.
  2. Ace tells you “I can offer you freedom if you just help me brother” and starts to shove me, grab me, etc. (very normal RP from him, he is a rowdy prisoner but also trustworthy to RP things in a reasonable manner)
  3. During this, I ask you if you know how to table (feeling out if you’re willing to help me with the rowdy Ace)
  4. You punch Ace a couple times, so I figure yes, you are on my side.
  5. I say “Table em luke” (because that would actually stun the rowdy Ace, as opposed to the punches you were throwing)
  6. Ace starts shoving you instead of me due to your punches on him.
  7. I leave courtyard briefly, speaking to CMP, who is wanting you to go back to your cell for your appeal.
  8. You go back to your cell for the appeal, the shutters are closed between the cell and courtyard, so the brawl is over for now. Later, you two decide to team up on me like you mentioned.

So I very much disagree that I “made you fight” - (Based on what you said in your report, it sounds like you punched him because you felt you “had to save me”)

I just wanted to clarify that part of it. I sent and received no ahelps during the round.

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Howdy,

I honestly had no idea that you were on a know to know basis with Ace so when I saw Ace trying to tackle you and steal your card and stuff I saw it as you were AFK and he was exploiting that moment. I didn’t want this to happen so I stopped him with a few punches and when he started to kinda mess with me (I could tell this wasn’t serious and just like a joke) and stuff and I watched you do nothing to this guy who was trying to tackle you I was sort of confused. Forced was probably the wrong word but I would definitely say encouraged. I see now that this is not your mistake so my honest apologies, wacky things can happen when you don’t have the full story. Also sorry for the jailbreak and your card being stolen and everything.

Apologies for any spelling mistakes I’m in a car on my phone right now.

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I only started saying to table him after you were already punching. Since you were already defending me I just wanted you to do it in a way that wasn’t gonna cause damage :+1:

No worries! As I said, I trust Ace, I don’t think he would ever use a jailbreak to go do any clear ooc rulebreaking, he just wants to be a little wacky like wearing athletic shorts instead of researcher uniform etc. I trust you as well, based on what I’ve seen and heard of you (not counting the ‘free him!’ stuff as an MP - it’s hard to argue after the fact that it’s a joke unless you say you’re joking ICly at the time.) Also I made a slight mistake during the process that otherwise would’ve let me recapture Ace and I learned from it anyways. All good :+1:

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This report has been accepted.
As an MP, you are expected to follow Marine Law OOCly, and failing to do so when ordered is against marine law. Additionally, you shouldn’t be disruptive to arrests while playing MP.
However, I believe that a jobban is severe for this, and I will be decreasing it to a warning.

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Added report:approved and removed report:needverdict