It is a GAME so it has to have enjoyable GAMEPLAY.
Every thrid hostile faction in CM has clear rules that prevent them from being a shithead and hostile surv has them too. The ammount of ruling for non-shitty hostile surv against everyone else requires whitelist level of rulings.
Oh yes, the rules about proper escalation that you can’t shoot other marines on sight, so if a naked character starts shooting you gamble if it is a marine grieffer, or legitemate CLF surv. 50-50 to either ignore the guy because it is an OOC issue and you will get ahealed, so you don’t want to give admemes more useless combat logs, or to shoot the guy because maybe it is need a hostile surv and IC issue.
The rules being abused by hostile survs would be the core ones, mainly 4 and 10. As a player I am expected to assume everyone follows the rules, am I not?
No I don’t think that. Survivor, as the name implies, has to survive. Hostile survivor can fuck himself in the current state.
Xenos have 100% certainty that any human during normal round is their enemy. There are no rules to prevent xenos killing anything that could be hostile to them.
Comparsion of hostile survivors to Marines for xenos would be rogue xenos to normal hive.
Yeah I want to see a roundstart “rogue” lurker offing drones weeding colony, this surerly will be fun and immersive, right?
They are allowed. But tis “temporary alliance” extends to whole round.
For a guy who preaches so much about “IC sense” and such, you are so quick to accept that CLF surviving extended period of time (it is like atleast a week after distress when marines show up) during xeno outbreak would only ally himself with marines for a minute, instead for atleast for how long the entire round will last.
How much sense does it make to be a CLF member who survived a week a literall alien hell to still want to kill arriving marines who came here to fight those aliens?
Not forever and ever, only for how long the round will last. You can imagine that after xeno threat is eliminated, your CLF OC snowflake will start to sabotage the Almayer, but it is after the OP.
Or what, you can’t just roleplay something in the future? You are not immersed enough to delay your hostilities for the future?
Because you would need to be one in order to be hostile to marines for no reason.
Nobody does that as it doesn’t fucking work like that. You are allowed to continue fighting as CLF if your shit got stripped when you were dead. You just have to do that in pyjamas. What psycho who got revived by kind marines would not fight in pyjamas, when he still wanted to fight them anyway? A psycho for sure.
HAHHAHAHAH. Permakilling some defenceless CL is peak RP I agree.
Yep, but your mantra of “improve, not remove” fucks you over, pal. Whitelist for hostile surv.
Wait till the councilllors see this thread. This is gonna be sweet.
You know that we had an “Agent” role? It was a shipside mostly RP job that was randomly assigned to do some minor sabotage.
It was removed because it was shitty. And this agent wasn’t even allowed to shoot on sight willy nilly. It was supposed to be more RP role and it fucking failed.
This says enough about your concept of subterfuge.
ANd masking of intent is so fucking dumb. You want to mask intent? Play fucking regular vanilla SS13 and roll syndie.
That is good, because this allows marines a fair chance. Ideally hostile surv should be removed.
Fuck entire concept of a hostile survivor.