Kryth - Staff Report: Enforcement Action Taken - MrSmiley316

Kryth - Staff Report: Enforcement Action Taken - MrSmiley316

What’s your BYOND key:

Kryth

Round ID:

31208

Your character name:

Kryth Kross

Their BYOND key:

MrSmiley316

What are you reporting?:

Enforcement Action Taken

Description of the incident:

I was playing marine and thought of an idea with throwing knives and a claymore, I was told that this was a known thing and this was “nerfed” so I assumed this was already known and had been fixed.

Consider that how vague of a rule this was and being flagged as an exploit, I understand being told not to do it and such, but escalating this punishment straight to a ban I feel is way too harsh as this was literally my first time I was told this was an exploit. Granted, I was told this was escalated due to my previous note 3 months ago, to a similar case which was also a metagaming note to another vague rule that is just not common sense.

As to the moderators comments about “Nothing in the game should be able to one tap a queen”. It did not, the queen was already low before dying to it as a prae triggered it and the queen, who was walking at around half health already, been hit.

I was told that I should not be aware of the CL having monkey boxes despite it not being metagaming to know beforehand the layout of a map and existing items, and I’ve followed that ruling, I’ve been told not to shoot through ladders as I was told this was not intended, and now another vague ruling is being enforced upon me that I had no prior knowledge of knowing and I was straight up banned for it. I had tried to appeal my discord ban and was denied so even if it was posted there, there was no way of me finding out about this vague ruling. Even the moderator who had banned me admitted this was their first time knowing it was an exploit.

Again, I can understand noting me for this, I am just trying to appeal the ban as I find it unreasonable for me to know every single rule that isnt plain up available to me

Evidence:

The note is : Rule 6 - No Metagaming | Placed claymores and stacked them up with throwing knives so that anything that stepped on the mine would instantly die. In the current round, I am aware of two runners and a queen instantly dying to this trap with no counterplay.

Admin PM from-MrSmiley316: Hello, just so you know it’s not intended for you to be able to stack up throwing knives on a single tile with a claymore so that you are able to do insane damage. Due to a prior note for this same issue. I will also be escalating this to a three day ban.
PM to-Admins: what? it was? this is the first time ive heard of this
PM to-Admins: what note was this specifically about?
Admin PM from-MrSmiley316: It’s also my first. Nothing in the game should be able to one tap a queen. Let alone a mine. This is abuse of game mechanics. This is an escalation of your warning note from smellyhippie on september.
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PM to-Admins: um, okay, banned for not knowing a hidden rule number 51293,
Admin PM from-MrSmiley316: You may file a staff report on the forums after the round is over.
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I should probably correct myself, when I say I was told this was a known thing and this was “nerfed”, I mean I was told this was done before, and had been nerfed so its not as strong anymore, but was not told that this was a bannable exploit, but had assumed it was a known mechanic to do similar to other niche mechanics like door traps and such.

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I am the banning admin.

Before PMing you I made sure that a ban was the right call and in my opinion, I don’t think I made a mistake considering how long you have been on this server.

There were at least 4 of these mines that were found and were deleted by me since I found them to be metagaming and after advise from another admin and maintainer, it was not intended.

Primary Reasoning
One of my primary reasons for thinking it’s unintended is that it deals an absurd amount of damage to mobs despite their armor and health. As you stated, yes the queen was was injured when she tripped the mine but if I had to guess she had at least a good 300-400 health in her before she died. And that isn’t counting the health that made her skip crit. so that’s another 100 at the minimum. I can’t confirm it since I’m not an expert at code diving but knives are also not affected by explosion resistance. A trait that crushers and hedgehog ravs get. The knives also killed the queen instantly with her 25 armor. Currently, there are very few things in the game that can do over 400 damage in the game. And none of the things are a trap that are so cheaply produced.

Queen Boom Video

Watch ClaymoreTrap (1) | Streamable

Secondary Reasoning
You have been in the CM community for quite some time and I personally find it hard to believe that you are a stranger to the rules of the server. You are an experienced member of the community and you should know better above all. I don’t think you took into account other players experiences by being one-shot by your mines. Two runners and a queen perished instantly to your mines.

The Mine in Question

I don’t think you acting in good faith when making these mines knowing good and well what they were capable of.

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This is a clear cut case of mechanical abuse. Report denied. I will fix your note and ban reason to reflect the rule 5 break instead of a metagaming/rule 6 rulebreak.

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