So recently there was a poll to see if research should be W-Y or USCM, W-Y won but i’ve seen some people wishing for them to be more independent then just under the USCM or W-Y, that’s why i purpose making research be under Lasalle Bionational, one of the leading pharmaceutical giants in the aliens universe
Alternatively maybe we could just make it a choice to pick between the three.
Unironically a pretty based suggestion.
Getting into corpo-wars arguments with the liaison sounds so fucking soul.
W-Y is cooler and more well known in the movies
vibes > niche lore with no representation a normie will see
All My friends hate WY All Hail Lasalle Bionational
One thing I hate about the extended aliens lore, is that WY sounds so pitiful in there. It’s supposed to be a god damn megacorp, but it sounds like it’s less known than our current real life companies and that there is actual competition to it everywhere. Stop trying to neuter the bad guys of the setting and let them have some sort of presence.
Lasalle is supposed to be a rival to WY, founded by a guy who left the company and started his own shit, it wouldn’t really make too much sense to have two rival companies on the same ship, and they certainly wouldn’t work together in any capacity.
On one had, yeah, lore accuracy and all. On the other…
How much relevancy does the “Insert the name of the generic croporation the name of which I already forgot” hold in a mind of a regular CM13 player? Does it tell them something? The person I quote has a right idea.
And also, my biggest gripe, a continuation of the second point: how is it supposed to be done? Does the new corpo research man now have a full-fledged hierarchy? Do they get a dedicaded fax and a fax responder now? Is there now a comepletely different Directorate they are subordinate to? Is the new corp as bad as W-Y?
Leading to my next point from the last, the faction representation in general. We already have some of these which are in game, but barely untilized even in events. I swear to god the only times I remember TWE exists are when royal marines spawn or I hover over the fax responder pool. Also, Hyperdyne. Remember Hyperdyne Systems? They exist. Cool.
All I saying is, by adding a completely new faction to the Almayer may not be as straightforward as it seems.
Some other people have pointed out as well, that… uh… W-Y is literally in control of the USCM (kinda), and we are talking about one of the weaker and (currently) smaller marine regiments in the sector, which Weyland-Yutani uses to do dubious work (like Burke used as weaker USS Sulaco to do the operation in Aliens). It wouldn’t make much sense indeed for it to have competitors on board. On other ships or USCM facilities, maybe.
In much the same way that Research being W-Y adds conflict between research and command, now they wouldn’t even be W-Y, meaning that Command and W-Y would both have to fight over it, creating more conflict then it just being W-Y.
Just want to point out the NSPA on Hybrisa are 3WE
Not really, they’ve done the dirty work of dozens of companies E.G AmArc, and as stated in the picture Bionational is already competing for W-Y contracts, and you’re forgetting that the main reason that W-Y is onboard the USS Almayer is to represent the Companies interests, compared to research who is there for a completely different reason.
I just want to clarify i’m not saying we should or shouldn’t do this i’m only saying that if we were to make them another group seperate from the USCM and W-Y it should be Bionational as that makes the most sense.
no wonder i’ve never heard of them
They literally do not exist in a functional way.
Their only presence is in the tabletop in independent modules, the latest being in 2019.
If the big mouse and other IP holders have seen no value in using them in the games or movies, I think there’s good reason for it
edit:
as you can see here, they were first made during the Dark Times of alien lore, where it was bloated, stupid and the movies were terrible. At the time of alien 3 and resurrection.
They have had over 2 irl decades to do something with this concept, but the reality is W-Y as this oppressive megacorp ‘Building better worlds’ is more interesting than a bunch of corpos fighting eachother.
TL;DR: it’s stupid
The UPP have never appeared on screen outside an old DS game that only like 5 people played, in fact it didn’t even appear in that much until the RPG made it more popular, in fact they even come from a scrapped alien 3 script.
The 3WE barely appear at all in aliens media.
But you know what has got mentioned in the games? the united systems from alien resurrection.
Thinking that because disney won’t feature it in a game or movie means it’s bad doesn’t make any sense, especially when you consider the fact they allow all the garbage from resurrection to appear.
and if we said “no we won’t have anything from the dark times of aliens lore” then we’d have to cut like half the game (Almost all the marine gear (except for the homebrew stuff) is from after aliens the film and half the xenos are from the “Dark Times” such as:Praetorian, Runner, Boiler, Spitter, Ravager, Defender, Carrier, Crusher, so in the end you got queen, drone, warrior, Hivelord, Burrower, and MAYBE lurker though that name wasn’t applied until A:CM i believe.)
Like there are actual arguments you could make but just saying “It’s stupid because it comes from something made in 1992 or appeared mainly in the RPG” isn’t a very compelling argument, and saying that “W-Y being the only oppressive megacorp is more interesting then a bunch of corpos fighting each other” feels more like subjective opinion, Alien Isolation is one of the best pieces of aliens related media since aliens, and there seegson commits it’s own share of horrible actions.
You know you could work for W-Y but be a disgruntled scientist and constantly threaten to go over to the competing company. Might be a cool twist for rp and a decent basis for a character
We should ban anything that is not in the movies.
Remove Ravager,
Remove Burrower
Remove Spitter
Remove Sentinel
Remove King
Remove Lurker
Remove Hivelord
Remove Carrier
Remove Charger
Remove that other tier 3 that I forget the name of because it doesn’t matter.
thank you for coming to my ted talk.
