a defibrilator made out of power cells cables and clippers big chance of producing severe burns and even killing you forever quickers or just adding more damage
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I don’t see why not. WYCI!
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Maybe remove that chance to perma someone, else it might just be used for grief, everything else sounds good though.
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make it 50% cause heartbreak 
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i like it just no perming effects.
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I don’t think the perma aspect is too harsh to be honest. Since the only time you would ever want to use the makeshift defib, is when you don’t have a normal defib. And if they don’t have a normal defib, the perma chance is now 100%. Taking it down to 50% with something you can honestly mass produce isn’t too out there.
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Solid take. I agree with you on it @RainbowStalin.
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i don’t as well but my issue is it being used to sneak grief.
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As long as only corpsmen can do it, then I don’t see a reason how they would get away with it. Give mods a heads up whenever someone dies to it, or permas to it. You can’t really have any other defence to it then the situation i prescribed.
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If the negative effects only affect the person using the defib, sure. Otherwise, not a fan. It’s bad enough currently when griefing/bald people spam defib instead of healing them to give them a million heart damage, no need to make it worse.
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like said in the comments the only reason using this is for a survivor moment. or in a situation where all medical staff died. or they wont get there in time. so i think having a chance to permanently kill someone with a homemade defib is OK since either way they will die i would add that you can get better quality of homemade defib to reduce the chance to add more damage or perma dead like imagine a synth should be able to make a makeshift defib with better quality than a survivor or some also i see people using to grief but you could add countermeassure like having logs for the use of this
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It’s difficult to moderate though, one could say that their usage of it was justified since their defib ran out of charge and they couldn’t get another or something, when they purposely went through the hoops to decharge their defib and ‘be left with no choice’ other than to permanently kill players. It’s too hard to say objectively whether someone was griefing or not, and hence can’t be moderated effectively
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Make it so the defib is only actually dangerous to the guy who attempts to do it and not to the dead guy and you solve 100% of the grieffing problems.
Lorewise fluff you get electrocuted by accident via loose wire, or some stuff like that.
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Might I prepose a diffrent idea. How about in the emrgancy medboxs on the wall there is a single use AED device. These are cheep, take a long time, but don’t perma or do extra damage. The idea is that if if there are no other options there will always be one of these round the cornor. No need to make them hurt more since each one is signle use. That way you also don’t have to build them but there still rare. Only people with basic medical training can use them. So no riflemen but FTL and such can.
The only issue with this is that on hyjack these medboxs stop working for some reason. Simply let us open them would be fine. I have no idea why they stop working and should proabably be changed anyway. I don’t know if they even work on the colony.
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USS Almayer is old. Faulty wiring could always explain it away.
Just because you could make up a lore explination does not means it no longer stupid I can no longer open a box with no power. It not a disspencer it a box mounted on a wall.
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medboxs? do you mean the little green first aid stations? if so the reason they stop working is the fact they have no power, fix the APCs and you can use the first aid stations. also i am pretty sure the medboxs are more like a dispenser then box mounted on a wall but i could be wrong.
still its kind of dumb they don’t work with out power.
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Yes thats exacly what im talking about. I’m sure this like a quick thing to do codeing wise. Also it would be nice to have a defib option for none medics or docs.
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Sounds powercreep. If none-medical try and use the defib they burn the downed marine instead? Cuz I’m pretty sure you need medical training to zap someone with electricity.
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For refernce IRL to use an AED needs a few days training. Fun fact AED’s have manuals in the kit. They even say out loud what to do next. They are made like this so you can use them with little or possibly zero training. Every single marine is trained in CPR and they often teach you how to use an AED in the same class since they often go together.
Now I am talking to the first aid AED’s so the one you see in a hospital might be a bit diffrent. I’m not sure if this will break the game since you still need to heal the person. I think it would make surv easier.
(Also I don’t think you can burn a person with an AED by using it badly. You’r more liekly to jsut not fix them. Defibs already do organ damage anyway so its not needed either way.)
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