New Medic Playstyle concept: Chemical Splasher (Getting removed soon because got caught in the crossfire)

RainbowStalin · November 5, 2025, 4:33pm

There is no PR to remove the goofyness of this stuff specificly, but more so that it was already planned even before it was discovered. Like the splasher for example. The medical rework has been on its way to make chems more advanced by giving them different effects to how they are taken in the body (syringe, epi-pen, ingestion, etc.), and will unfortunatly completely demolish the splasher playstyle without even knowing about it.

Carlo · November 5, 2025, 4:58pm

There is no PR to remove the goofyness of this stuff specificly

github.com/cmss13-devs/cmss13

Nerfs janibuckets, buffs Blue-space beakers, rebalances its availablity

master ← Nihisohel:bucket-man

opened 04:42PM - 04 Nov 25 UTC

Nihisohel

+18 -14

# About the pull request Title. Done at a maintainers approval. # Explai…n why it's good for the game Its pretty ridiculous seeing all these loadouts requiring the usage of these very readily available buckets, and especially with a very high density of chemicals This PR changes that by removing the fabricator craft for the janitorial bucket and makes it a large item, making it unable to stash it in your inventory, and nerfed its volume from 500u to 300u Additionally, high-cap/bluespace beakers have been buffed to hold 500u from 300u, making it the more ideal item for chemical use, however its medilathe costs are increased from 10000 to 30000 As a little treat for those that will get angry, OT and Research gets one extra high-cap/bluespace beaker each within their respective offices # Testing Photographs and Procedure It works, find the beakers yourselves # Changelog :cl: del: Removes the janitorial bucket autholathe recipe balance: Janitorial buckets are now considered large items, volume reduced from 500u to 300u balance: High-cap beaker medilathe costs are increased from 10000 to 30000, volume increased from 300u to 500u balance: OT and research gets one extra high-cap beakers within their respective offices balance: Buckets and Mop-buckets has their volume reduced by a short amount /:cl:

Its pretty ridiculous seeing all these loadouts requiring the usage of these very readily available buckets, and especially with a very high density of chemicals

This PR changes that

Ingwe · November 5, 2025, 4:59pm

CM devs talked about kenshi med for years already, I wonder when will it happen.

RainbowStalin · November 5, 2025, 5:00pm

github.com/cmss13-devs/cmss13

Medical Rework Phase 1 - Chemical Changes

master ← Nihisohel:unga-man

opened 05:35PM - 05 Apr 25 UTC

Nihisohel

+1426 -1251

# About the pull request Adds a chemical delivery spectrum for chemicals, ens…uring that without using the proper delivery methods, lower potencies or even dangerous effects are delivered to the player as a penalty Autoinjectors are also given differing modes of injection to favor its use over pills # Explain why it's good for the game Being able to swig a cup of your favorite healing chemicals in one gulp without penalty is not a good gameplay system It is an incredibly gamified use of the legacy chemical system which modern CM is attempting to move away from. **This PR will add a chemical delivery method spectrum system** a bit similar to how TG has it, but a bit more nuanced than that These delivery methods are: **Controlled Ingestion** : Pill ingestions **Ingestions** : Food/drink consumption **Inhalation** : Smoke and gasses **Touch** : Self-explanatory **Absorption** : Through the skin absorption (think lotion) or intramuscular injection **Injection** : Subcutaneous or Intravenous injection **Implantation** : Deep, or steady forms of injections (IV bags would reflect this form of method) Each chemical has a preferred and undesired delivery method, and both can have multiple If the preferred is met, the potency of the chemical is not reduced If the preferred is not met, but is not an undesired delivery method, it will check how many steps away from the nearest preferred method and apply a penalty as follows If the preferred method is Ingestion, but the delivery method is Controlled Ingestion: **One step away from preferred delivery** - Lesser effect, where the chemical potency is halved **Two steps away** - No effect **Three or more steps away** - Apply overdose effects (If the improper delivery is already overdosed, it will upgrade to a critical overdose) If the undesired delivery is met (Example, Bicaridine undesired delivery is ingestion, and the delivery method is ingestion), it will similarly have the same effect as **being three steps away from the spectrum, resulting in an overdose** In essence, this PR will make an attempt to circumvent unga ingestion through flasks, but not through medical mixes through the reagent pouches which utilize the INJECTION method, ensuring that medics aren't harmed too much by this change To further incentivize the use of actual medical items, Autoinjectors are now rebalanced with two differing modes: **Precise** - Which allows you to use the injector while it is in your active hand, while also on the move **Fast** - Which allows you to use the injector instantaneously, at a cost of lower chemical potency due to its ABSORPTION delivery method (assuming the delivery method does not prefer absorption) # Testing Photographs and Procedure It works, will need a TM <img width="387" height="76" alt="image" src="https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/ea4509a0-9dfc-42eb-908e-5904c8a58b22" /> <img width="477" height="64" alt="image" src="https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/f2b154d7-f19b-44b1-93bd-760ffe4777e2" /> # Changelog :cl: add: Chemicals now have their own preferred and undesired delivery methods, ensuring proper medical application while still retaining your favorite chemical mixes balance: Autoinjectors have two differing modes for use: Precise and Fast balance: Autoinjectors can now be used while on the move with Precision mode, with a movement speed malus until injected balance: Autoinjectors can also be injected instantaneously with Fast mode, but with lower chemical potency as a result fix: Syringes now update their inhands properly code: About every chemical delivery method is no longer either INGESTION or TOUCH, utilizing the proper delivery method for its type in the chemical delivery spectrum code: Reorganizes a few chemicals into its own files and better repaths refactor: Deletes robodropper.dm and makes the industrial dropper a child of the dropper /:cl:

Sooner than you’d think

kooarbiter · November 5, 2025, 6:06pm

me see fun playstyle, me no like, me nerf, ME NERF HARD, ME NERF INTO FUCKING GROOOUUUND

DukeofCagliostro · November 5, 2025, 9:03pm

Why can’t we have nice things?

BasilHerb · November 6, 2025, 5:15am

Its not a nerf specifically to kill this, this playstyle just so happens to be in the firing line

Janitorial buckets being powerful for allowing you to carry thousands of units of drugs on you has been in the cross hairs for a while now, it’s not in the least surprising it’s being nuked when the medical rework is on the horizon

DukeofCagliostro · November 6, 2025, 9:04pm

I need my Jannie bucket to clean. Do not steal.

AlbertBlackwell · November 6, 2025, 11:52pm

DukeofCagliostro · November 7, 2025, 6:35pm

Why can’t we have fun things?

NyoomVoyager · November 7, 2025, 10:59pm

ASO can’t come into my cool MT-knowers-only gambling hall, I’m sorry