Nimbus342 Whitelist Report: Elder Lang’kell Nhon - Spirit of the Whitelist
What’s your BYOND key?
Nimbus342
Round ID:
24398
Your character name:
Prime Lurker JP
Accused BYOND key:
N/A
Accused character name:
Elder Lang’kell Nhon
What rule(s) were broken?:
Spirit of the Whitelist
Whitelist in question:
Predator
Description of the incident:
I was a vamp lurker and came across the pred in question fighting another vamp KATO, I assumed KATO was newish to the caste / fighting preds because he didnt seem to be landing many hits but I made no effort to intervene I merely observed. When it was clear KATO was going to crit said “don’t kill the sister” just to indicate maybe it was better not to just round end someone who couldnt put up a fight. The pred obliged (without saying anything) and another lurker dragged the crit one off. The pred then walked up and hit me without saying anything, it then hit me again and i defended myself half heartedly because i was busy OOCly but it disengaged shortly after and i moved off scren to a different spot and sat to rest. In the meantime another vamp flan was (offscreen) engaged with the pred and was chased down and killed next to where i was resting. Once again i made no effort to intervene or say anything, I remained rested and indeed I was on the phone at the time. Our noble and most honourable predtagonist then proceeded to start hitting me whilst I was rested I said to him “I’m busy” and “excuse me” (not great but saying “I’m talking on the phone” wouldn’t exactly be IC) but he would not relent and he killed me in cold blood whilst i remained rested. The pred in question made zero effort to roleplay in any of this interaction, he didn’t say a word I didn’t explicitly try and provoke him I only ever fought him in self defence and disengaged as early as I could. I get that preds are an antag faction or whatever but I made an effort as IC as i could to make apparent I wasn’t even in a position to defend myself. Feel that this falls under the Spirit of the Whitelist, particularly the section “Yautja are antagonists however, they should use common sense when it comes to hunting during a round and be aware of their surroundings”. I’d have happily fought the pred in question properly and not cared if I died but from my perspective it looked like he was farming low effort afk kills and made no effort to talk or interact with me at all unless you count unsolicited thwacking with an axe as interaction. If i’d been actively hunting him too or even if he’d voiced his intent to hunt me I wouldn’t feel a need to make a report but it was just (yet another) case of low effort pred bringing down the Whitelist imo.
Evidence:
didn’t have time to get the logs I was on the phone for a bit
Your ‘disengagement’ was hardly 30 seconds long, a screen away, and only because the other lurker (FLAN) stepped in and I had heavy armor. As soon as I was done with him I killed you, and I might’ve spared you if you hadn’t decided to try and poorly metagame the honor code by not fighting back or pretending that the engagement was over and me attacking you illegitimate. Instead you decided to metagame it
I was talking on the phone in real life which is why I rested a short space away because I wasn’t interested in fighting you, when i tried to make an effort to explain that to you you didn’t make any effort to stop your attack and listen to me. I was not trying to metagame anything I was just literally on the phone, I wasn’t even the one who attacked you first you just walked up and silently attacked me…
I’m deeply sorry i did not have the time to hit Looc chat in between you whacking me?? when I said I’m busy and exuse me because i was trying to explain to you Id have thought that was indication enough that this was not a normal engagment??
Although I’m sorry if you were truly busy in real life, your record with pred reports makes me doubt this is anything than a salt report. “I’m busy” is something preds get often when they try and fight xenos because they assume the preds can only engage them when they give their consent and they’re free to fight. Had you said something in LOOC instead of IC I’d have waited
I was wondering if you could clarify what you mean by this. I’ve made one report in the past which I withdrew having been informed that the case was acceptable by the honour code so I didn’t want to waste anyones time. I have also made 1 report which was accepted so I’m struggling to see the relevancy of this “record with pred reports” and I’m concerned for the personal bias here. Please feel free to elaborate.
I was and I’m happy to provide evidence to the best of my ability if I need too
This was not my assumption when I was sitting there resting, I of course had no idea how far off screen you and FLAN were. At no point did you ever say anything (even before I was resting) you just wordlessly started hitting me my feeling is this not what the pred WL should be, of course the council may judge differently.
I spoke in IC based on the fact that you;d be able to see the text instantly above the sprite and because It’d have been very very hard for me to hit L to bring up the looc menu and type a messsage one handed in the time before you just killed me as you repeatedly hit me.
I may be remembering this incorrectly but I believe when the other lurker died I’d already been sitting down resting and that as the pred killed the lurker in crit I’d have been in sight, resting and making no effort to intervene. Maybe I am just remembering this wrong but felt its relevant to clarify, re-engage makes it sound like I was fighting back, are there any further combat logs from myself? Is the fact that I begin resting before I’m ‘found’ again recorded too?
Based on this I had 6 seconds between the pred ‘finding’ me and killing me, I assume at least a second or 2 of that I would have been in crit from him hitting me I think I communicated as much was humanly possible given that I was distracted OOC.
Would also like to emphasis the Pred did not talk emote or anything throughout the entire encounter I really was not trying to fight it I just wanted to say don’t round end someone who clearly isn’t good enough to pose much of a threat
To add further I don’t actually have a keybind set for resting to avoid accidentally resting in combat so unresting without mouse movement was not an immediate option
I don’t expect pred players to read minds, and neither does the council. A simple LOOC would’ve been enough, maybe; depending on context but telling a predator what to do will most likely get you as you said “thwacked”.
I disagree and I don’t appreciate the snarkyness.
Don’t die next time.