onetoughcreampuff - Player Report: FR, Rule 2: Roleplay - Xeno Roleplay Standards

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onetoughcreampuff - Player Report: FR, Rule 2: Roleplay - Xeno Roleplay Standards

What’s your BYOND key?

onetoughcreampuff

Round ID:

32411

Your character name:

XX

Accused character name:

FR

What rule(s) were broken?:

Rule 2: Roleplay - Xeno Roleplay Standards

Description of the incident:

Lowpop hive, FR was presumably scouting for survs. They reported they found one into hive. I pretty much more or less within 20 seconds go over to check them from hivevision and I see them killing them. For context the survivor was in the pictured area with cades at the west end of south lz. They did not wait for reinforcements when announcing such in the hive chat or demanding them.

This report isn’t about killing what could have been an easy cap, but it does establish the validity of the banishment that would’ve followed. Rather their actions immediately after. The queen said she was going to banish them, then asked for help how to (yes i told them the wrong ability in hivemind, whoops). FR then proceeded to suicide into the other survs, as they admitted to on the discord before the banish could go through.

This gets around the 1 hour xeno ban and means xenos don’t get a larva back from the banishment. As this was very lowpop this would’ve had a significant detriment on xeno numbers since they suicided, if the round hadn’t ended shortly after due to a crash, but regardless.

Evidence:

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Hey, I was the survivor in question. I thought my perspective could help the reviewer come to a conclusion - but I will disclose I thought FR did nothing wrong in this case.

Regarding the banishment, FR did not “suicide into the other survivors.” FR had a borrower supporting them in a blitz attack while they were trying to CPR me, and it was unfortunate that the fire managed to get them. They did not intentionally suicide because they were being banished and/or willing to grief the hive.

I was alone and scavenging the locker, which I also used as a hiding spot to OOC check the map online as I am not too familiar with Shiva’s layout. As I was distracted and an easy target at the time, FR pounced on me. The problem was I got back up and had a loaded shotgun aimed at them. In close quarters (a 2x2 fully caded in square), a blast to the head will undoubtedly have a good chance of knocking down the lurker and killing them. As such, I thought it was smart to continue attacking me. This was also accompanied by not even 10 seconds later of this encounter starting, the survs flashlights came into view and, should FR have continued to tackle battle me, would’ve led to their death (also as this was an enclosed space.)

While this part is meta knowledge unknown to the hive, I had already asked the survivors to come to my position and (i’m not sure if they can hear colony radio, even though humans can hear aliens hissing)- if so, the lurker would’ve heard my callout informing the survivors of my position and therefore it was smarter to deny a recovery than risk it all for a potential cap. Even without this knowledge, the flashlights of the survs came into view near the same time I was killed.

To summarize- I think the initial attack was justified from FR’s view, as I was alone and distracted. The eventual killing of me was as well, as the flashlights indicating reinforcements alongside the danger of my shotgun blast being able to knock them down and lead to their death (death sentence in an enclosed space) means this was valid on their part. And regarding the claimed banishment evasion, the lurker was with a burrower and attempting to double team the survivors who came to my aid. It just so happened that they were better equipped than expected and it ended poorly for the xenos.

As such, I do not believe that the initial attack, eventual kill, nor the eventual rush of the two survivors is justifiable for a ban. I am however not a staff member who can decide this, nor have the POV of the hive. From my perspective and ghost perspective, however, I do not believe this violated any rules.

Have a good day.

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As I said, I’m reporting the suicide when they knew they were being banished.

Thats great and all, but they knew that they were being banished and they chose to as you put it, ‘rush’ the survivors. I don’t disagree that theres probably a chance that pushing the survivors afterwards was them just continuing their normal role as a lurker, but like a prisoner ‘accidentally’ PBing the warden after getting their gear back, its very unlikely. Moreso that they tried pushing survs with flamers and shotguns which if we’re assuming complete competency (and infact if we’re assuming the same knowledge that you talked about in regards to “a blast to the head will undoubtedly have a good chance of knocking down the lurker and killing them”, then they should’ve known) would not be something you would push with a lurker and burrower.

Anyway talking about assumed knowledge is a fallacy, and this doesn’t matter because they admitted it was their intention to go all in with pushing that lead to their death, on the discord.

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Hello, thank you for the report. Unfortunately, I will be denying it as the burden of proof regarding them suiciding is not met - they simply went in and died from the information I have available.

Simply continuing to play the game and dying is not valid reason to be noted - and it is not expected of you to go AFK and do nothing if the Queen threatens to banish you. Additionally, the banishment likely would have been invalid given other testimony, further making this report ineligible.

Report denied.

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