Paisley Park - Player Report: Kaz 'APC' Smith & Art Howe, Rule 2: Roleplay, Rule 4: Griefing

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Paisley Park - Player Report: Kaz ‘APC’ Smith & Art Howe, Rule 2: Roleplay, Rule 4: Griefing

What’s your BYOND key?

Paisley Park

Round ID:

32506

Your character name:

Rebekah ‘Chemist’ Chambers

Accused character name:

Kaz ‘APC’ Smith & Art Howe

What rule(s) were broken?:

Rule 2: Roleplay, Rule 4: Griefing

Description of the incident:

I was deploying as a Corpsmen this round and, as I have done in numerous rounds prior, was deploying as a sort of ‘Healer Spec’ through the use of healing chems in a smoke canister. I usually flip between Tricordrazine and Inaprovaline, chems that are really easy to not OD on as other Corpsmen don’t usually inject Tricord and Inap having an OD of 60u. I’m always very careful with best times to use them and each time I go about this, I only improve. I have never encountered an issue doing this until this round.

This round I decided to try a different chemical to see how it functioned in active engagement. The chem this time being Methylphenidate. As listed, it has no Overdose value and the effects are: improving focus and removing confusion. I had the CMO during the round create it for me, as I cannot use the chem dispensers as a Corpsman. I don’t know if mechanically it actually provides a positive, but as it has no OD limit or negative effects, it legitimately cannot do any harm to try it out. At most, it might just serve as a vehicle for RP. Which, in a sense, it did, but not the positive kind.

While utilizing it, I got the usual questions from the marines about it. As with when I use Tricord or Inap smoke, I explained what it was, what it did, and that it was safe. I heard no issue from the marines I was using it only, but I did start hearing reports in Medical comms that someone was injecting marines with meth. I spoke up, informed all in the comms that it was not meth and was actually Methylphenidate. I went further and stated that it was a focus improvement chem, no drawbacks, and had no overdose value. That should have been the end of it, realistically.

Unfortunately, that’s where the above two doctors came into the mix. They were repeatedly shouting over me in comms that it was meth and getting marines riled up that there was ‘meth’ in their system. Something else that didn’t help was the Pyro spec, I think, being one of the marines that acted aggressive while the chem, a very very slow metabolizing one, was in their system. From a character standpoint, they, as Doctors, would know that the chemical is perfectly safe and does not induce aggression. Conducting themselves as they were, that being intentionally spreading misinformation, claiming a perfectly safe chem was somehow doing something harmful, goes against what their characters should know as medical professionals. As the spread of misinformation from them escalated, the CMO went and forbid me from using it anymore. To ensure that I didn’t, both Kaz, Field Doctor, and Art, a shipside doctor who was groundside as well for some reason, proceeded to grapple me, throw me into the MST tables groundside, knock me out, strip me of my gear, then throw away my smoke canisters while I was unconscious. Additionally, when I regained consciousness and was putting my stripped gear back on, Kaz once again assaulted me and stripped me. I said, “Enough was enough” and went shipside to report all this nonsense to the CMP, who was the only active MP at the time, to report the assault and other actions being done to me and to clear up the misinformation campaign from the 2 Doctors in person.

In conclusion, the two doctors were spreading misinformation about a chemical and its effects that their characters would know is untrue and through the greater scope of their actions actively caused grief and annoyance for myself and all those that took their words seriously. I can’t think of a valid roleplay reason why a doctor would make claims that a chem that doesn’t do anything harmful was doing something harmful to bully a Corpsman.

Thank you for your time.

Evidence:

I don’t have any logs, but the MST and CMP Ruby Fairwright were individuals that I spoke with about what was going on.

Screenshot of the chem: Imgur: The magic of the Internet

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I was the CMO, Chambers was quite antagonistic to Smith and Howe, and right after I banned her from using the chemical I made for her (Methylphenidate), proceeded to spray Smith straight in the face. While Methylphenidate doesnt have an OD limit, there was an actual genuine effect on the marines, a Mandela effect, to the point that marines were calling the Researcher Zack Bayak, for him to add an anti-addiction component to the super chemical he was making. Chambers also proceeded to be rude and antagonistic to me telling me to “read the book” on the effects of Methylphenidate, after I refused to make it for her a second time. I had called the MP’s to arrest Chambers over her actions earlier in the round however because Roosevelt had died trying to save the captain, and the CMP couldnt go groundside. During Chambers’ use of Methylphenidate, the Field Doctor, and the Doctor I granted permission to go groundside after hearing the trouble during the OP told Chambers to stop, they decided to knock her unconscious in order to take the smoke canisters in order to stop her she proceeded to destroy the Field Doctor tent and cause general mayham groundside.

It should be noted that I was CMO, so anything groundside I heard was through second hand.

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Pyro here, i found out later in the round that normal chems were reacting in the body to create an addictive chemical, i was affected by this around the time i walked through one of the clouds, for a chem that quite literally has meth in the name and as a role that isnt expected to research what is being made i would have done the same efforts to stop it again given the same information. There were a number of reports as mentioned and correlation is difficult to pin so its put on the only abnormal act on the front, someone running around with a gas flamer of a chem you are proclaiming is methylphenidate which has negligible upsides and is far from well known.

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Hello Paisley,

Yes, I did table and strip you. The smoke flamer you were using was dropped in fob as soon as you left, and remained there for the duration of the op. If you had returned to the fob and, at any point, simply looked at the supply crate, you would’ve found it.

As for why I stripped you: you’re attempting to argue that, from an RP perspective, my actions were wrong in character. In character, you, as a medic of the United States Marine Corps, had found a way to aerosolize an ADHD medication and used this method to throw smoke clouds of it in people’s faces. Without their consent. In an active combat operation. After the CMO had actively forbidden you from doing it. I stand by my actions in character to remove your smokethrower, as it is absolutely ludicrous to entertain the idea that you should be administering any type of medication, especially psychiatric medication, with such utter negligence.

As for out of character, I still stand by my actions. You claim you were testing it out to see if it had positive effects, but the wiki says what it does. Why continue to use the meth smoker when you could see that it was doing nothing beneficial? Marines were frightened of withdrawal because psychostimulating chems that wear off give you messages like “Your mind feels much less stable…” and “You lose your perfect focus.” With your recent history (Source 1, Source 2, and Source 3), I fully believe that you chose this chem, not as a way to “experiment,” but only in an attempt to grief. Finally, you chose to spray the doc working with me, the doc whose first deployment it was. They did not need healing, you only wanted to harass them. I was not happy about that.

I did end up ahelping this, in the round. I got an acknowledgement from the admin and figured that one way or another, the matter was settled. Though, throughout the round, I kept seeing marines with methylphenidate in their systems, even though the CMO had told you to cease. Strange, for someone who purports that they care about approaching situations in character, to have their marine disobey their superior like that. Anyways, imagine my surprise, when, 30 minutes later, I walk back to my tent and it’s no longer there! Who could possibly have used an entrenching tool to delete the medical tent that gives a surgery speed boost, a mild painkilling effect, has a nanomed, and is near impossible to replace? I asked the mess tech nearby for confirmation, and confronted you over comms, with which you basically responded “you can’t prove anything.”

To start, you are wasting the time of the staff by asking them to pull the logs over such a petty and inconsequential complaint as being temporarily stripped of your weapon. To finish, you have a history of griefing and hiding behind paper thin excuses and pointing fingers. This is as far as I will entertain this report. Good evening.

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I’ve seen chemicals administered in a gaseous form before but only with approval and double-checking from both the CMO and Research. Marines and corpsmen alike were absolutely terrified this round that a rogue chemical from basic medicine had been created. It’s happened before, and stuff like this causes unnecessary discourse. If the medical department didn’t authorize it, then I wouldn’t want it either.

There was a round where like kelotane & tricord would melt your entire body and kill you within a minute. I saw a bunch of corpsmen panicking about how there’s an unknown rogue chemical, some even being hesitant to give pills due to the fear unknown. Thankfully the gassing eventually stopped and the panic level went down. Stuff like this affects the round more than you’d think it does.

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Hello, in a similar sense to the manner in which staff provide logs to a report, and considering some apparent misunderstanding of the nature of Methylphenidate,

I'd like to briefly clarify some technical information relevant to this report.

As implied by two respondents, Methylphenidate (Ritalin) is not a custom chemical, nor is it the same as Methamphetamine (Meth, as in that Meth).

It cannot be created accidentally in the body, and is only synthesised by combining mindbreaker toxin, and hydrogen.

(however, ML does not forbid mindbreakers use in a medical chemicals synthesis)

Besides the fluff messages of ‘your mind feels focused’ or ‘your mind loses focus’ the only effects of the Methylphenidate are a reduction to your ‘confused’ stat. Which is the effect applied when a mob is sufficiently drunk, or otherwise incoherent.

It is not addictive, it has no overdose, and it cannot otherwise induce withdrawls.

Methylphenidate is classified on the CM wiki in the ‘medical’ section, alongside Bica, Kelo, etc.
Strictly speaking, there are no legal restrictions on its usage in the field by a HM, nor is explicit permission required for its field application, as it is not a research chemical.

However, it is also worth noting that Methylphenidate is considered a controlled substance in many countries, if not banned in its usage outright.

I will leave the remainder of this discussion in the hands of the assigned staff member, and urge participants in the thread to remain respectful of one another while they await a verdict.

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What you have done was LRP, you are not a dungeon healer and I’m not going to repeat what was already said to you in the ticket. However, as Forest told you before, “You’re not on a path you want to stay on.”

I genuinely advise you to take a break from CM for a while.