PLEASE remove the mp armor requirement from SOP im begging you

The least amount of RP I want is for the accused to yell over coms you will never take me alive copper. Don’t be an NPC actually RP.

Folks are gonna mald and try hard to arrest folks anyhow, if they take off amour and chase and die to said person, rather then think back and see how they could have done better they would rather mald some PFC/MT beat them. Its sad but this still happens.

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Well, basically all arrests are shipside and since people OOCly can’t go lethal force in response to MP tools, properly escalated deaths will be extremely rare. I really don’t think a policy change allowing more freedom to MPs would cause MPs to be upset about it.

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Got it a bit wrong there, one should not go lethal force in response to MPs using MP tools to arrest and brig anyone. OOCly this is right but not all folks know/or care for it. There is nothing on the mechanical side preventing this.
Properly escalated deaths are few and low yes and I dont think its the issue. I issue I think wanted to point out the say you remove you MP amour to chase a dude and later go back for it(lets say here you left it unsecured area like briefing room) and its gone. Some folks will mald about who would take a MP amour and why, was it taking to greif? Was it take by like another MP back to brig and they forget to mention it? Some CMPs might hound you if you lose your MP gear, I think thats fine IC but hope shit like this does not become a big issue in the future.
At the very least before a SOP change is done I would like for a month or so like reskinned M3 light amour for MPs, and they can pick if they want the standard or the light amour is the one they want from the brig vendors. Test this for a while, at the end of this if it shows its working and there are no issues or need for more changes then I say we can keep said change as is and just keep a eye out. If not then we might need to consider a SOP change or something else at that point.

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Sure. But if they go lethal on you then you’re probably dead regardless of armor anyways - the advantage of being first to engage is quite massive. (And I don’t think policy changes should be designed while assuming that people are going to break the rules.)

I think it’s fine as well. The times that people have managed to kidnap me and take my armor on alamo, they almost always throw back the armor at the end - my point being people are not actually as hostile towards MPs as it may appear based on the usual trash talk you hear.

(That, and you have more armor at the vendor.)

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Did some digging and found out there are TWO count them TWO seperate PRs that would’ve added sprites that dont look godawful and neither of them got merged because some shitheads who havent touched the game in years complained too hard. Why people go out of their way to have something worse baffles me. There’s also a set of MP armor that was MERGED and is IN GAME as part of the Hybrisa stuff, apparently there are MPs on that map who didnt get the memo that USCM MP gear is expertly designed to look god awful.

MP already have a gajillion tools to instastun and cuff anybody who they want, why do they need more buffs against criminals?

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Because MP mains are unrobust as fuck, also impatient and lazy. 3/4 of the ship is just two hallways and two maintenance tunnels, yet MPs crave additional speed, because they can’t just stand and wait in hangar as 9 times out of 10 the criminal they couldn’t catch is a PFC who wants to deploy now.

You give them finger, they will get whole hand. Give them SOP compliant no speed penalty jackets and they will ask for roundstart standard issue speed stims to catch those illusive PFC’s. It is not like windup to take off armor wasn’t added because MPs cried. That was the original “finger”.

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The idea of MPs being able to walk at the same speed of everyone else being considered a “buff” is kinda funny to me. But anyways, I think one of the managers BlackDragon summarized it well on another thread:

Based on that quote, it sounds like MPs are meant to catch people and that “mp vs criminal balance” isn’t a concern (probably because you can’t join as a criminal.) If it is a concern somehow, I’d much rather the tools or CQC advantage be nerfed and for players to be able to move at the same speed. I think we should encourage interaction (whether that be talking, shoving, tablestunning, whatever) between players rather than encourage people to run away and not RP.

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???

What MP tool insta stuns? Disablers take like three shots, stunbatons require close range and i think two to three hits (almost never seen them used as well), flash requires close range, pepperspray requires close range, flashbangs are heavily restricted and the same goes for riot guns.

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what mp tool instastuns

proceeds to list 3 instastuns

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Two of which require close range (MP’s are slow moving), and the other is only able to be used in extreme circumstances, you make it sound like they can one shot you with a tazer.

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Step 1, keep 2 tasers on you.

Step 2 be 5 steps ahead of the marine meaning keep your taser in your hand and get ready to reach for another one if you get tackled.

Step 3 aim.

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Real ballers keep 4 tasers locked and loaded

They really do hand tasers out like disposable paper cups …

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This close to crashing out on you goddamn lunatics.

THE STATS DO NOT MATTER!!!

You could attach slowdown to an MP’s ID card for all I care, my issue is that the armor as it stands looks like hot garbage and every attempt to fix it was dragged into the depths by the neverplayer shadow mafia

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