Reisyn - Player Report: Bhu'ja Djar'ce, Honour Code - welfare of prey

Reisyn - Player Report: Bhu’ja Djar’ce, Honour Code - welfare of prey

What’s your BYOND key?


Round ID:


Your character name:


Accused BYOND key:


Accused character name:

Bhu’ja Djar’ce

What rule(s) were broken?:

Honour Code - welfare of prey

Description of the incident:

Was warrior, came through the south west side of Medbay on Kutjevo to cross the river to flank marines that were directly west of Medbay. Came across scout spec and two others, scout spec fired a shot at a cloaked pred, I paused because I thought they were having some sort of fight, the pred fled as it was on fire and scout spec attacked me instead with impact rounds, there was a scuffle and I perished.

After which, the predator that was attacked (I presume) by the scout spec attempted to recover their body for them. As the pred wasn’t in an active confrontation with the scout spec, (they were cloaked, not revealed and in no way duelling or fighting when I arrived), I believe it breaks the honour code to retrieve someone, especially when it comes to the “welfare of prey” section.

The scout spec would have surely been rounded ended if the pred had not intervened and they had no reason to retrieve them and bring them back to the marines. You can’t call it a duel or a hunt if you get shot once and flee whilst cloaked.

"The welfare of prey

You are forbidden to save any prey that you are hunting, unless you are actively engaging them (E.g In combat with each other.). If the other faction intervenes when you are actively engaged, you may save your prey and bring them to a safe location on the hunting grounds to continue the hunt. You may save any prey you are hunting if you breach the honor code while actively engaging them and return them to their defenses/Faction."


Logs will need to be pulled of the player retrieving the spec as well as the combat logs for the interactions.

Rough side of my fight with jooks and the placement of his body after he died:

On a cursory glance (tired) I’m willing to accept all the events that happened as you said them. A few details which are not included or are misrepresented in this post through no fault of your own are:

  • First and foremost, I was performing gear recovery, which brought me to the scout. I didn’t know exactly what the scout had at the time, but the scout ultimately had a mask that belonged to a deceased predator.

  • When I arrived at the body I began searching for gear on them which belonged to the predator faction, but was attacked in short order by some nearby xenos.

  • I tried to talk to them to explain that I was doing gear recovery, but any time I came anywhere near them (the xenos, not just the scout’s body) they would immediately pounce/ grab me.

  • I ultimately decided to grab the body and run with it so that I could figure out exactly what pred loot it had on it.

  • I dragged it southward, away from the xenos and began searching the body. After a bit of time a small detachment of marines arrived at my location. I believe it is important to emphasize that I did not drag the body to the marines, but that the marines came to me, it’s likely that someone watching a helmet cam reported it, but I can only speculate since I’m not gonna do a log-dive for a report against me.

  • Once I had the gear they stole, I cloaked and left.

I do not believe my actions constituted an honor code rulebreak. Did my actions lead to the recovery of a scout that otherwise wouldn’t have been recovered? Maybe, but that’s speculative as well. Even if my actions did indeed lead to the scout’s recovery, I did not move the body with the intention of ‘saving’ it, and the resulting recovery of the body does not constitute an Honor Code violation as far as I am aware.

The only viable alternative to the actions I took was to let the body sit until it became unrevivable. That is certainly an option, but it could have also led to a number of other round-impacting events, and requires speculation on the round in a certain light that doesn’t necessarily hold up to scrutiny. Ultimately I do not believe I broke the letter of the Honor Code nor the spirit of the whitelist, in-spite of the accusation.

In fact, the alternative would have been light metagaming: relying on a game-mechanic in order to make a roleplay decision. That is, of course, not a punishable form of metagaming, but the whitelists are to adhere to higher levels of roleplay than the rest of the server.

Relevant logs posted. If you believe I have missed any information or have misconstrued something important for your case, please contact me on Discord.

Involved Parties
Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce | Accused | Biolock | Predator
Warrior TAG-121 | Reporting Player | Reisyn | Xenomorph

Ancillary Involved Parties
Johanna J. Jaakari | Scout Specialist

Biolock spawns into the round and notices there is abandoned predator gear to be recovered from both the hunting ground and the Almayer.
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:42:08.813 19286 SAY SAY: (Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce) [1]: A hunter is dead? (CKEY: Biolock) (JOB: Predator)
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:42:12.278 19286 SAY SAY: (Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce) [1]: That… (CKEY: Biolock) (JOB: Predator)
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:42:47.483 19286 SAY SAY: (Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce) [1]: A youngblood perhaps? (CKEY: Biolock) (JOB: Predator)
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:43:48.155 19286 SAY SAY: (Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce) [1]: In the humans’ subvessel. (CKEY: Biolock) (JOB: Predator)
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:43:54.477 19286 SAY SAY: (Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce) [1]: This can only mean bad things. (CKEY: Biolock) (JOB: Predator)
Biolock seemingly recovers at least one piece of gear with no difficulty
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:45:33.795 19286 SAY SAY: (Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce) [1]: Quick and clean. (CKEY: Biolock) (JOB: Predator)
Biolock is engaged by the Scout, who I can confirm is carrying Predator gear (logs for this posted later)
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:47:14.325 19286 ATTACK ATTACK: /(Johanna J. Jaakari) shot Biolock/(Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce) with A19 high velocity incendiary bullet in Kutjevo - Scrubland (73,95,2).
Its hard to tell, but I am going to assume that Biolock disengages. Then the scout is lunged and grabbed by TAG. At this point, another marine seems to directly shoot at the Specialist and kills them while they are lunge stunned.
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:47:22.206 19286 ATTACK ATTACK: /(Warrior (TAG-121)) grabbed /(Johanna J. Jaakari) in Kutjevo - Runoff River (83,96,2).
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:47:24.036 19286 ATTACK ATTACK: /(Elder Lurker (BR-954-U)) slashed /(Johanna J. Jaakari)
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:47:28.534 19286 ATTACK ATTACK: (Rozamond A.W. Sarin) shot /(Johanna J. Jaakari) with a rifle bullet in Kutjevo - Runoff River (5x hit shots, 10x missed shots)
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:47:29.430 19286 ATTACK ATTACK: Johanna J. Jaakari has died to �M41A pulse rifle at Kutjevo - Runoff River from Rozamond A.W. Sarin
Biolock tries to get the body of the scout, and tries to communicate to the xenos regarding this, but the xenos ignore Biolock and attack them.
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:49:24.520 19286 SAY SAY: (Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce) [Yautja Translator]: The body. (CKEY: Biolock) (JOB: Predator)
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:49:55.141 19286 SAY SAY: (Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce) [1]: They are not in the mood for discussion. (CKEY: Biolock) (JOB: Predator)

I’ve cut the attack logs and I am only showing who attacked Biolock, not how many slashes they made.

Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:48:52.151 19286 ATTACK ATTACK: /(Prime Warrior (L-500)) slashed Biolock/(Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce)
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:48:52.724 19286 ATTACK ATTACK: /(Elder Lurker (BR-954-U)) slashed Biolock/(Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:49:24.716 19286 ATTACK ATTACK: /(Ancient Lurker (CR-233-AB)) slashed Biolock/(Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce)

Biolock uses a low power plasma caster to stun some of the xenos.

Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:49:33.395 19286 ATTACK ATTACK: Biolock/(Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce) shot /(Elder Lurker (BR-954-U)) with a low power stun bolt in Kutjevo - Scrubland (69,77,2).
Biolocks recovers the body and recovers the predator gear they were wearing.
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:51:20.500 19286 ATTACK ATTACK: Biolock/(Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce) grabbed no key/(Johanna J. Jaakari) in Kutjevo - Scrubland (78,83,2).
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:51:35.987 19286 INTERACT INTERACT: Biolock/(Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce) tried to remove no key/(Johanna J. Jaakari)'s clan mask (wear_mask).
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:51:36.977 19286 INTERACT INTERACT: Biolock/(Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce) removed no key/(Johanna J. Jaakari)'s clan mask (wear_mask) successfully.
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:53:07.215 19286 SAY SAY: (Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce) [1]: One piece of gear down. (CKEY: Biolock) (JOB: Predator)
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:53:09.072 19286 SAY SAY: (Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce) [1]: Many to go. (CKEY: Biolock) (JOB: Predator)
Ahelp regarding incident.
Oct 29, 2023 @ 11:58:58.359 19286 ADMIN ADMIN: Ticket #8: Reisyn/(Warrior (TAG-121)): Hey, can you guys find the name/ckey of the pred who saved the scout spec for me?
Oct 29, 2023 @ 12:01:51.075 19286 ADMIN ADMIN: PM: NessiePendragon/()->Reisyn/(Warrior (TAG-121)): Elite Bhu’ja Djar’ce
Oct 29, 2023 @ 12:01:59.969 19286 ADMIN ADMIN: PM: Reisyn/(Warrior (TAG-121))->NessiePendragon/(): Ckey?
Oct 29, 2023 @ 12:03:12.496 19286 ADMIN ADMIN: PM: NessiePendragon/()->Reisyn/(Warrior (TAG-121)): Biolock
Oct 29, 2023 @ 12:03:19.647 19286 ADMIN ADMIN: PM: Reisyn/(Warrior (TAG-121))->NessiePendragon/(): Thanks.
Oct 29, 2023 @ 12:03:26.956 19286 ADMIN ADMIN: PM: NessiePendragon/()->Reisyn/(Warrior (TAG-121)): Good luck

That is all the relevant logs. There are no logs regarding where the Scouts body was moved.

Added report:needverdict and removed report:pendinglogs

The body of the scout was moved due to xenos guarding the body despite attempts to parley with them to simply retrieve gear. Therefore they grabbed the body and moved to a safer location to take the gear without issue.

This report is denied. The predator did not act outside of Honor Code, whether regarding welfare of prey or gear retrieval.

Added report:denied and removed report:needverdict

Added report:pred

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