Trijent’s a 3WE map that for some reason got an UPP insert (yes i know they’re recon), while Soro, a map that was originally designed around being Peruvian UA-UPP dmz but got corrupted into this weird W-Y and UPP working together (makes no sense at all, imagine the USSR working with Lockheed Martin) thing doesn’t have an UPP nightmare insert, therefore i think we should move the UPP insert to the map where they’re actually close and replace the trijent version with some 3WE group instead.
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Good idea. I support it.
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UPP are on trijent to investigate the alleged xenomorph research in the research labs on the map, not because there would just randomly be UPP on a WY colony.
that being said I think having more wy flavor would be good, but there’s no reason to tear out a neat addition like the upp insert, I do think it should be rare though, think CLF ship on LV, where it’s a cool unusual thing that most people don’t see very often.
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Did you miss the part where i said i know they’re recon? just because they’re recon doesn’t make it any better, these recon barely even deserve to be called it because they’re just Naval Infantry with different patches.
I didn’t say remove it completely, i said move it to a map where the UPP are closer and therefore are more likely to respond first, having them on trijent makes people think it’s some UPP map and i really hate that.
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I guess you could argue lore reasons, but at the same time this would be a massive balance issue. UPP nightmare is already really powerful and easy, oftentimes very unfun to play against.
At least on CC Forecon have to make a long march towards the hive if they want to get their gear or blow open the typhoon and drag their crate halfway across the map over half a dozen tunnels towards their hold, climbing over windows and busting down doors. That puts them at risk, something UPP insert doesnt have to worry about because they A. spawn with most their gear and B. the gear is not scattered and too easily acsessible.
Soro has access to thermal spawns at the fingertips of survivors, a massive arsenal of weapons, anything one could hope for to survive. UPP insert will just from what I see, inflate the map loot pool and make playing survivor there so easy and fighting survs unrewarding that it becomes unbalanced.
If a UPP insert is to get added on Soro, they should not be implemented the way they were in Trijent. Spawn with less gear, scatter the gear like in the case with Forecon, and maybe consider the balance implications of giving people in heavy armor, a flamethrower and pulse rifles with AP ammo thermals on a snow map.
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Here’s what i’d do:Lessen they’re weapon supplies (they’re recon, not an assault team. they shouldn’t have too powerful weapons or AP given they’re at most going to be fighting a bunch of cops and Corpo sec) and additionally remove heavy armour (recon forces usually pack light)
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