Sup-30000 - Whitelist Report: Alan Jones, Rule 4, Permanent Removal. Rule 10: Lethal Force.

Sup-30000 - Whitelist Report: Alan Jones, Rule 4, Permanent Removal. Rule 10: Lethal Force.

What’s your BYOND key?

Sup-30000

Round ID:

30076

Your character name:

Dmitry DeGuzman

Accused BYOND key:

Don’t know.

Accused character name:

Alan Jones

What rule(s) were broken?:

Rule 4, Permanent Removal. Rule 10: Lethal Force. Battlefield Execution did not meet the rules for Battlefield Execution.

Whitelist in question:

Commanding Officer

Description of the incident:

A hijack happened, and in the process of marines gathering at the holding point, i saw the commanding officer. I was quite unhappy about CIC and decided to tell him about it, and expressed it by words: “Hope you know that your CIC was kinda shitty, with all that PUSH PUSH PUSH”. There wasn’t coming any mutiny, cuz of people being focused on Hjack. And… CO just kills me and B-E, and giving me free perma on this round.

Evidence:

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Logs of the encounter from my logs

PVT Mikhail Petrov asks, “What’s the word?”
LCpl Annie ‘Boo’ Manbizu says, “Nevermind.”
2ndLt Jaymie Flemming [Almayer (GP)] says, “Somebody help me moutn turrets at the alamo”
LCpl Annie ‘Boo’ Manbizu says, “Follow the Major.”
PVT Mikhail Petrov salutes.
Maj Alan Jones says, “Okay regroup on hangar middle.”
LCpl Annie ‘Boo’ Manbizu says, “We’re holding around here. SOmewhere.”
Capt Jasper A.W. Cutlass says, “So, Major Jones.”
PVT Mikhail Petrov says, “Tovarish Major.”
LCpl Annie ‘Boo’ Manbizu nods.
Maj Alan Jones says, “Plan is as follows.”
PFC Svato Plink [Almayer (Bravo RFN)] says, “Sir me and Nile Shihol are going down to eliminate the enemy forces.”
Maj Alan Jones says, “We buy enough time for the pumps to load the fuel in.”
Capt Jasper A.W. Cutlass says, “What do you think battalion command is going to think about this uh.”
Capt Jasper A.W. Cutlass says, “Fuck up.”
Annie ‘Boo’ Manbizu talks into the marine bravo engineer radio headset
LCpl Annie ‘Boo’ Manbizu says, “We’re holding the middle of Hanger. Get there.”
LCpl Annie ‘Boo’ Manbizu [Bravo (aSL)] says, “We’re holding the middle of Hanger. Get there.”
Maj Alan Jones says, “Then we’ll consider our option.”
Dmitry DeGuzman points to the floor

Cpl Dmitry DeGuzman says, “CO”
Cpl Dmitry DeGuzman says, “Your cic was kinda shit”

PVT Mikhail Petrov says, “Tovarish Major.”

Cpl Dmitry DeGuzman says, “With all this PUSH PUSH PUSH”

Annie ‘Boo’ Manbizu starts assembling a metal barricade.
Ms. Jasmine ‘SteelRain’ Kasper gasps!
Annie ‘Boo’ Manbizu assembles a metal barricade.

EMERGENCY

DROPSHIP ON COLLISION COURSE. CRASH IMMINENT.

PVT Mikhail Petrov says, “What is bravo objectives-”

Cpl Dmitry DeGuzman says, “Hope you knew that before i told you”

Maj Alan Jones says, “Oh really now was it.”

Annie ‘Boo’ Manbizu starts assembling a folding metal barricade.
Ash Thompson buckles in!
Mikhail Petrov talks into the marine bravo radio headset
PVT Mikhail Petrov exclaims, “BRACE!”
PVT Mikhail Petrov [Almayer (Bravo RFN)] exclaims, “BRACE!”

Dmitry DeGuzman is hit by the .454 heavy high-impact revolver bullet in the chest!
The shrapnel sticks in the wound!

Cpl Dmitry DeGuzman screams!
Annie ‘Boo’ Manbizu assembles a folding metal barricade.
2ndLt Tony Briner yells, “Cade!”

You fire the Mateba autorevolver custom point blank at Dmitry DeGuzman! x2
Dmitry DeGuzman is hit by the .454 heavy high-impact revolver bullet in the chest! x2
You hear a loud cracking sound coming from Dmitry DeGuzman!
Dmitry DeGuzman seizes up and falls limp, their eyes dead and lifeless…

PVT Mikhail Petrov says, “WHAT THE-”

You aim the Mateba autorevolver custom at Dmitry DeGuzman’s head!
You hear a loud cracking sound coming from Dmitry DeGuzman! x2
DMITRY DEGUZMAN WAS EXECUTED!

Play stupid games win stupid prizes my friend.

You have the right to feel however you wish, but really what did you expect the outcome to be? An apology? A humble massage to make you feel better?

CIC that round was just me alone and a SO in training. Therefore what you said was quite frankly directed at the CO directly.

Despite that, we managed to put in every tactical option for your squad Alpha, including you, to reach the hive core at least 3 times and fail to take it down because they could not commit to a push numerous times. While Delta was pulling the queen and the T3s away on the south side it was in fact your job to push. So understandably the order you would be receiving is in fact, to push.

But that is besides the point.

The point is that anyone playing command is there to organize and run the round. Whether you feel good or bad about it, they are not held accountable to the opinions of an Alpha specialist. The CIC is not evaluated by the Alpha Specialist.

Now let me show you the BE clause under which your instance goes under, referencing the CO Code of Conduct:

Aside from the conditions outlined above, Battlefield Execution may also be issued to punish LRP behavior, out-of-character or meme references, and explicit adult content, in order to preserve the integrity of the roleplay environment. Whitelisted Commanding Officers are entrusted with this authority and are expected to exercise sound judgment. The use of Battlefield Executions is monitored by the CO Council, and any abuse of this privilege may result in severe disciplinary actions, including removal from the Whitelist.

We call this the anti-shitter clause.

Walking up to the CO, during the exact moment the dropship is about to crash, specificially for the one reason to tell them “Hey just wanted to drop by real quick to tell you that you were shit today, because you told us to push despite that being what we were supposed to do, but you already know that you’re shit anyways don’t you?” constitutes for plain malicious LRP behaviour.

This is not constructive by any means and adds nothing to the round. And I don’t really understand what you expected the outcome of that to be.

But let me make it very clear.

The players in command are not there to take your opinions or feedback, so it’s best to keep your feelings to yourself. They’re there to organize and play their part in the round and are not there to deal with low-level trash behavior like that, whether you like it or not.

Please avoid doing that again in the future, because you will likely receive the same response again.

Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

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Remain respectful or don’t comment at all, we’re looking into it.

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Sure boss, you the boss.

The Council has reviewed the logs and evidence for this situation and we’ve determined that Major Alan Jones, in this case, did violate the CO Code of Conduct. Battlefield Executions are allowed to be carried out in a number of situations - including when a marine presents a threat to your command and to punish LRP behavior. In this specific case we don’t believe that a marine expressing their dissatisfaction with their CIC’s performance, with no mention of this being a pattern of behavior nor implication of mutiny, constituted a threat to the CO’s command nor passed a threshold of what could be considered LRP.

While the statements made by Dmitry DeGuzman were, arguably, toxic there are methods by which toxicity can be handled without flouting a precaution against LRP as an “anti-shitter clause.” Ahelps, player reports, and the #staff-help channel on discord all exist for people to use when they believe someone is being an ass beyond what is reasonable in game. In this case, we don’t think that dickish quality quite rose to LRP, and therefore was not valid to BE for.

This report is accepted and a warning has been issued to the CO in question.

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