Survivors rushing hive

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Rule 2: Roleplay
Survivors

  • Survivors should not be rushing to attack the hive before the roundstart xenos have had a chance to evolve

This rules doesnt specify what considered hive and whether they allowed for example to rush immature queen when she picks hive location. When asked about this rule, member of staff affirmed (asked quite long ago) that survivors allowed to rush hive even when they have only drones (~2 minutes from roundstart).
Also, looks like this rule wasnt changed after PR that added caste time restrictions.

I suggest to at least add “chance to evolve to all t1 castes” (about 5 minutes(?) after roundstart) or just forbid them to rush the hive at all (why would they do it, considering that xenos massacred everyone else on this planet). Even better with “rushing to attack the hive or the immature queen” (immature queen is useless off ovi).

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This is a rule which should really just be solved via in-game mechanics

Make Queen mature at roundstart and call it a day

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Yeah, but that would require rule for queen not to rush survs… but still better

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The rule is currently that hive assaults aren’t allowed until T3s. This is written in the rules verbatim.

Furthermore, if the survivors go out of their way to rush caves for example and hunt down the queen, they ARE punished. If however, the queen for example goes to a common survivor spot because she wants a “non-meta” hive spot, and gets shot, that is her problem.

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where is this written

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CM-SS13 Rules they disagree with you dafoe

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Yesterday I sent a PR to clarify this rule, if approved by Management this rule will be clearer soon.

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i thought until T1s was it changed again?

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The way the current rules are enforced is that survivors are not allowed to hunt/attack the hive until the hive has the option to evolve into the Drone caste, this typically takes 60 seconds from game start.

This is generally extended to cover not attacking xenomorphs as well to some extent. Though this only is really a issue on Shivas Snowball since that map has a chance to have survivors spawning in practically the same areas as xenos can spawn in.

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tbh i dont really see anything wrong with the T1 rule right now. If survivors rush the hive they will just get screeched at by the queen and be insta captured.

And with the “forced” drone evo of every larva its unlikely that the hive isnt protected by walls and doors by the time survivors arrive at the hive.

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Only problem with that is the Queen starts out immature, so unless the survs go for exactly where she is on ovi, she’s just a big drone.

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The thing is, out of like… lets say, 20 rounds, only 1 of them will have competent gamer survivors that are rambo commandos that help each other up, only use cades to give time to heal up then rush out again, know every good spawn point for gamer survivor loot and rush it the second they spawn, etc.

Only in those instances can survivors actually beat a T1 hive before they evolve to T2.

Considering it also depends on the map, because on some maps, unless you get an insert you just die trying to rush hive (like LV) since you do not even have armor which is MANDATORY if you fight hive since sentinel neuro on no armor survivors is a death sentence.

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She has screech on ovi which makes it already dangerous.
And knowing sweaty players they will look out where the survivors are.
The hive rush only works at lowpop and its already very dangerous doing it.

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