ThiccFucc - Staff Report: Behavior involving Misconduct - BlackDragon813

ThiccFucc - Staff Report: Behavior involving Misconduct - BlackDragon813

What’s your BYOND key:

ThiccFucc

Round ID:

Don’t know round ID, but round ended around 12:24AM

Your character name:

X-671-Y

Their BYOND key:

BlackDragon813

What are you reporting?:

Behavior involving Misconduct

Description of the incident:

Making this report at the request of BlackDragon.
Xenos managed to hug a predator before the collapse of the hive. Some xenos managed to secure and protect the capped predator even after a second queen rose and died. In the end, it was down to two planetside xenomorphs, PIG and a lurker named BOX (I think a hivelord that died too?). Queen Mother messages began urging the hive that somebody had to go queen. PIG ghosted, I took over their body and evolved to queen.
Unbeknownst to me at the same time, after I evolved to queen in a safe space, BlackDragon used admin intervention to convert Lurker BOX into a young queen as well. I didn’t see where it was, but I believe it was somewhere in the middle of the jungle and they died soon after.

Issues with this were:
-Admin intervention allowed two xenomorph queens to exist on the planet at the same time; not really a huge deal but pretty LRP and nonsensical.
-Converting Ancient Lurker BOX into a queen also deleted the hugged predator within their stomach and killed the only other planetside xeno, dooming the round for xenos. Granted there was little chance of a comeback, but at the very least there was a chance an abomination would have been born, the pred had been hugged for 10-15 mins already and xenos had managed to protect it the whole time despite the fall of two hives; it’s a one in a million thing that rarely happens, and an entire server was waiting in anticipation for it, only for admin intervention to ruin the flow of events in a round and prevent a unique outcome from ever playing out.

This led to a fair bit of outcry from many people, to which the admin’s response in dchat was “cope” later followed by attempted justifications at how BOX disrespected the QM. I’ve seen QM turn a disrespectful sister into a monkey or light people on fire before, and it’s pretty funny usually, but often that only happens during evac or after xenos have won. I feel like the extraneous circumstances of that round called for some more nuance, and many would have appreciated admins showing some restraint or handling it differently.

As people continued to complain in OOC after server restarted, BlackDragon appeared to have just realized turning a lurker with a cap inside it to a young queen deleted the capped pred and acted as if it was the first time hearing about it despite the entire server in uproar and coping in dchat and ooc for 12 mins straight.

Their response to the outcry after they realized the consequences of their actions was

tell you what
staff report me
go for it

It was a fairly insensitive, somewhat condescending response lacking any remorse to the server after realizing their actions, which were arguably borderline grief, ruined the expectations of a lot of people. It was probably because they thought their actions were justified nonetheless, and xenos were gonna lose anyways, and nothing would come of a staff report.

Either way, you asked us to report it, so here it is I guess. I don’t imagine much will happen, but all I can ask/hope for is that admins use this as a learning experience and stay their hand, reduce, or at least try to find more nuanced/diplomatic/OOC approaches to game intervention in the future without completely ruining the flow of the round for everybody.

Evidence:

Chat log of the round downloaded, and screenshots of OOC the round after, both available upon request. Not sure how to post them here. I believe others had video recordings of the incident as well.

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Figured out how to upload these, OOC messages pre-round the following game

EDIT: Looking back at these OOC messages Wedge_antillesTRA said they ahelped that round to let the staff member know they deleted the pred, to which the staff member said they didn’t care. I don’t know if that happened, if y’all could check logs for that too that would be great. If it did, I don’t know why the staff member acted like they were just hearing about it for the first time. (I mean you can also see BOX showing the pred and explaining several times in the vid, so idk how it went unnoticed)

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Log pulling assigned to ordo

I was the hivelord who made the original nest that trapped the pred.

I dont see how they couldnt have seen the capped pred.

This is the round where a pred got cappedamd sat in nest for a while, the marines found it in a nest and took it to the ship, the predators stole it from the ship and took back to the surface, the healthy predator accidently self destructed HIMSELF instead of the cap, and then finally BOX found the capped pred again

From xeno to human to pred to xeno.

A million ghosts were orbiting especially after the healthy pred fucked up.

This isnt as though box solo capped it on the side and no one noticed…

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The round after it had ID 17169, not sure if that helps narrow it down

All information appears to be here, ill be elevating to pending verdict.

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Sorry for the wait, these are the logs involving this report. If I have missed anything, please tell me.

Hivemind Conversation Between Queen Mother and BOX

[2023-06-06 06:15:10.885] ADMIN: BlackDragon813</a>/(Greg A.W. Yeetcannon) has created a Normal Hive Queen Mother report
[2023-06-06 06:15:10.885] ADMIN: BlackDragon813</a>/(Greg A.W. Yeetcannon) Queen Mother (Normal Hive): Ahhem

[2023-06-06 06:15:22.592] ADMIN: BlackDragon813</a>/(Greg A.W. Yeetcannon) has created a Normal Hive Queen Mother report
[2023-06-06 06:15:22.593] ADMIN: BlackDragon813</a>/(Greg A.W. Yeetcannon) Queen Mother (Normal Hive): ONE of you will have to fill in.

[2023-06-06 06:15:25.831] SAY: Ancient Lurker (BOX-847): Oi QM. 
[2023-06-06 06:15:28.462] SAY: Ancient Lurker (BOX-847): I got future of hive in me.
[2023-06-06 06:15:30.476] SAY: Ancient Lurker (BOX-847): Shut the fuck up. 

[2023-06-06 06:15:51.671] ADMIN: BlackDragon813</a>/(Greg A.W. Yeetcannon) has created a Normal Hive Queen Mother report
[2023-06-06 06:15:51.671] ADMIN: BlackDragon813</a>/(Greg A.W. Yeetcannon) Queen Mother (Normal Hive): Would you like to repeat that BOX?

[2023-06-06 06:15:57.340] SAY: Ancient Lurker (BOX-847): I got the future of the queen in me. 
[2023-06-06 06:16:12.180] SAY: Ancient Lurker (BOX-847): I mean future of the hive. 

[2023-06-06 06:16:13.039] ADMIN: BlackDragon813</a>/(Greg A.W. Yeetcannon) has created a Normal Hive Queen Mother report
[2023-06-06 06:16:13.039] ADMIN: BlackDragon813</a>/(Greg A.W. Yeetcannon) Queen Mother (Normal Hive): The part after that.

[2023-06-06 06:16:22.710] SAY: Ancient Lurker (BOX-847): Hm. 
[2023-06-06 06:16:26.496] SAY: Drone (X-671-Y): AIGHT FINE QM 
[2023-06-06 06:16:26.992] SAY: Ancient Lurker (BOX-847): Well QM. 
[2023-06-06 06:16:31.590] SAY: Ancient Lurker (BOX-847): I got a transaction ehre. 
[2023-06-06 06:16:33.229] SAY: Ancient Lurker (BOX-847): If i die. 
[2023-06-06 06:16:37.056] SAY: Ancient Lurker (BOX-847): Things aint going well for the hive.

[2023-06-06 06:16:40.613] ADMIN: BlackDragon813</a>/(Greg A.W. Yeetcannon) has created a Normal Hive Queen Mother report
[2023-06-06 06:16:40.613] ADMIN: BlackDragon813</a>/(Greg A.W. Yeetcannon) Queen Mother (Normal Hive): Here allow me to help.

[2023-06-06 06:16:41.502] SAY: Ancient Lurker (BOX-847): Cause this thing getting snatched up. (CKEY: Yorkie_Matt)
[2023-06-06 06:16:43.058] SAY: Ancient Lurker (BOX-847): Mate. 
[2023-06-06 06:16:45.418] SAY: Ancient Lurker (BOX-847): I got. 
[2023-06-06 06:16:48.352] SAY: Ancient Lurker (BOX-847): LOOK. 
[2023-06-06 06:16:50.162] SAY: Ancient Lurker (BOX-847): DONT DO IT. 
[2023-06-06 06:16:58.826] SAY: Ancient Lurker (BOX-847): Wait until after it bursts.

[2023-06-06 06:16:58.900] ADMIN: BlackDragon813</a>/(Greg A.W. Yeetcannon) has transformed *no key*/(Ancient Lurker (BOX-847)) into mob type /mob/living/carbon/xenomorph/queen

AHELP


[2023-06-06 06:17:37.695] ADMIN: Ticket #13: /(Fledgling Facehugger (793)): Ayy uhh you just deleted the abom by force evoing
[2023-06-06 06:17:43.752] ADMIN: BlackDragon813</a>/(Greg A.W. Yeetcannon) has started replying to admin help.

[2023-06-06 06:17:52.696] ADMIN: PM: BlackDragon813/(Greg A.W. Yeetcannon)->/(Fledgling Facehugger (793)): Xeno talked shit to QM, RIP
[2023-06-06 06:18:30.137] ADMIN: PM: /(Fledgling Facehugger (793))->BlackDragon813/(Greg A.W. Yeetcannon): To be fair kinda a goofy moment, and plus it's a once in a 100 rounds for a abom. PLEASE allow the trolling to continue
[2023-06-06 06:19:00.476] ADMIN: PM: BlackDragon813/(Greg A.W. Yeetcannon)->/(Fledgling Facehugger (793)): Shit talking QM results in "big funny" they have fucked around, and so they find out.  Special role or no.
[2023-06-06 06:19:53.758] ADMIN: PM:/(Fledgling Facehugger (793))->BlackDragon813/(Greg A.W. Yeetcannon): I mean I do get that, but it's a glitch so it's a bit sad that by force evoing it caused the abom to delete

More Information

X-671-Y Evolution to Queen

[2023-06-06 06:16:26.496] SAY: Drone (X-671-Y): AIGHT FINE QM

*(Evolution to Queen happened somewhere between here. It is not logged for some reason.)*

[2023-06-06 06:17:09.945] HIVEMIND: /(Young Queen) : Status

There are mentions of the Pred being capped in Dchat and the entire situation. However, I do not believe the logs are required from Dchat for this report. However, if needed. I can post them.

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Talking garbage to the QM is an instant remove from round type of offense. If the player in question had been more clear to queen mother that they had an abomination in them, maybe things would be different.

However I agree an abomination is rare and although black dragon was fine to address the QM trash talk, they should have compensated the xenomorphs, I will defer this to dubszor to address.

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I agree disrespecting QM isn’t acceptable, but as mentioned earlier I feel like the extraneous circumstances surrounding this particular instance warranted a more nuanced response. BOX wasn’t taken out of the round, they were turned into a second queen when there already was one.
I’m not sure what more the player could have done to make the situation clear, they did everything they could judging from the video. They even regurgitated and showed the pred several times.

It’s difficult to believe the admin didn’t realize there was an abomination; it’s even harder to believe they didn’t realize their mistake after the fact, considering somebody ahelped regarding it. What surprised me most was the fact that despite the ahelp and the salt in dchat, they acted like they were just finding out about it when Frozen asked after the server reset and people kept complaining. And even then they didn’t care.
Like people were saying, even if the admin didn’t realize their mistake initially, if they had at least spawned an abom larva or done something to rectify the mistake after it was pointed out in the ahelp, it wouldn’t have been a huge deal. Pretending not to know and then telling people to report them wasn’t the best way to handle it imo.
Sorry if this comes off passive-aggressive, that’s not my intention; I have no ill will towards BD, I know y’all work hard to keep things running, I just felt that this particular instance could have been handled better.

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