Vicacrov - Staff Report: Violation of Event Protocols - Biolock

[ihatethisengine]

I am one of the players who was bothered (you can check this in LRC, also you can find a lot of interesting arguments there, like “it was hijack so it doesn’t matter”).

@Biolock

I figured that yes, the M60 is crazy strong in the right situation, but any number of things can prevent that effectiveness, and a smartgun with full ammo would probably be just as impactful if not moreso given it could provide consistent fire throughout the entirety of the end round.

You can see on the video how hard it was to get the right conditions. One second wind-up and the queen is dead. This is honestly baffling to call this anything fair and “conditional” and even compare this to smartgun. The gun is just broken, just as many admin-spawn guns. This is not even a new knowledge, many people remember how Warfan added M60 to his HvH map and how it ruined the event.

@Biolock

I figured, what is the harm in letting one of the players toy around with one of the special weapons? I let a wide array of players play with fun toys every once in a while after all.

Apparently there is harm, so maybe don’t do this again? Outside of events, this is a competitive game, and admins tipping the scales provide nothing but harm to the enjoyment.

@Biolock

There are a lot of strong things in the game that are regularly provided as events and whatnot: ERTs, the vulture, tanks, predaliens, etc, and I do not think that something impacting a round’s outcome necessarily makes it wrong.

Really? We are discussing a weapon that dealt over 1k damage in an instance. And you are still arguing it was an okay thing to do? Also yeah, if you spawned a tank without any notice and compensation for xenos, I would still be disappointed, but even tank is not as strong in comparison, so I wouldn’t be as disappointed.

@Biolock

Ultimately, I do not think that there is any stable ground to argue that this was a condemnable action. This was not done for my own benefit, but for the enjoyment of others. Any staff spawn or interference has the propensity to drastically alter a round in unexpected (and sometimes expected) ways.

It really doesn’t matter what goodwill you had to make it a condemnable action. “The road to hell is paved with good intentions”. If you outright gibbed the queen, it wouldn’t benefit you, but still would be a condemnable action, wouldn’t it? Yes, any staff interference would tip the scale. But obviously different levels of interference deal different levels of harm. I pretty much believe that a gun that deals over 1k damage in an instance should be off the table forever. This is not just a “toy”.

I want to additionally point out that it’s unclear if management need to obey the events protocols, but I want to bring up a precedent when Morrow (maint manager at the time) spawned MARSOC (also insanely OP) during hijack and at least was told to not do this again, so I really hope at least for the same outcome here.

ihatethisengine2 - Staff Report: Violation of Event Protocols - MorrowWolf

I was there at the time and spoke with Morrow regarding this. I don’t have issue with providing marine reinforcements given the circumstances, but concur that Marine Raiders was overkill. Resolved, Morrow has been spoken with regarding appropriate level of intervention.