Whitefire nerf without nerfing the fire

I swear, every SINGLE round research rushes whitefire.

  1. White fire should have an obstacle to mass deployment. My working idea was require biomass be used to craft either a unique tank type or unique flamer attachment that is required to use whitefire.

  2. Even if you ignore 1, please make fire resist boon work on it. Its just objectively silly that it dosnt work on whitefire. For all you marine mains, its fire RESIST not fire IMMUNITY so this does not make whitefire obsolete.

Now, I will admit, the REASON whitefire is so popular is valid, and needs to be fixed, this is just a bandaid fix. Whitefire is one of the only things research can get fairly consistently and isnt just pure RNG hell.

There’s already nerfs for whitefire approved on the github, wait until they go live and get tested for a few weeks. Slamming multiple nerfs at once without testing phases is how you get what happened to vamp lurker.

For reference, fire immunity applying to fire penetration / Xeno Fire Immunity Refactor x2 + Hive Fire Resistance Buff by Drulikar · Pull Request #11615 · cmss13-devs/cmss13 · GitHub
White flame nerfs / whiteflame nerfs by kiVts · Pull Request #11575 · cmss13-devs/cmss13 · GitHub

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just remove research, there is nothing to save

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Tru, research is just not a good fit for CM13 tdm. The way it interacts with groundside is fundamentally flawed because of its output just being both large-scale and uncounterplayable on both a micro and macro timescale, alongside being impossible to properly balance because of “scarcity”

Its not balance by scarcity unless it’s scarce relative to other things in the round. Scarcity relative to other rounds is not an excuse to claim it’s balanced.

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