Why does smartscope reduce damage?

Why does the smartscope reduce damage? The benefit of the smartscope is situational at best, and it already comes with the downside that you have the opportunity cost of not being able to choose another attachment like the mag harness?

If you choose the smartscope:

  • You deal reduced damage ALWAYS
  • You don’t get to pick a different rail attachment like a light or mag harness.

And the one thing you get in return, is occasionally not shooting a friendly when you otherwise would have. Which if you aren’t a noob is pretty rare.

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The majority of the Marine Player base can’t aim if their life was on the line. FF is a given. We have an entire squad dedicated to FF.

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It’s not that much of damage reduction, especially compared to the old smartscope. In fact chances are you will do more damage because you will be holding LMB without the fear of FF.

If you “aren’t a noob” and you never FF, why would you need smartscope then?

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have you never been in the middle of a pack, or right behind one or two spearheading, and you are looking for the correct angle to shoot around them? Or a runner in the middle of the marines? Next time you see a xeno near them you don’t have to hesitate. The moment you see the xeno to the moment they leave just point and click as fast as you can.

The time you gain from not having to delay any decisions can be substantial, and some of that damage output is mitigated from doing overall less damage.

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I’ve got thousands of CM hours and there is still FF, people will help intent shuffle, shotgunners will sprint into your bullet stream. Some guy off screen will eat your bullets. Scout will decloak…even if you are le master at preventing FF you will blast someone here or there.

For me smartscope is something i take with L42 since off-screen damage is actually a big deal for it and i will be chasing so paying less attention to my surroundings, and more attention to the MD pings.

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Tru i feel like the opportunity cost is enough to make no dmg reduction :3c
It can be used as a crutch but it’s intended purpose makes sense! as a way to help high ping players.

Ping lag

Smartscope has no scope feature anymore tho :<

Smartscope still ff’s ppl but it probably won’t frac them if u do tru. I won’t comment bcus reflex sight increases ur dps too much at range, it makes smartscope a bad investment on mk2 imo.

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L42 Is a M4RA but you can take stock off in order to insta weild it, you…don’t need a cope to off-screen someone? that ties into the falloff damage…L42 has 25 til range, and 25 tile falloff, whch means at 25 tiles it still does max dmg. Someone off screen can then get boned by it.

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i think i misinterpreted wat u sayed

wait so smartscope still prevents shooting when allies are offscreen?

AG m4ra is basically the same tbh, the stock stats are really good like reduced scatter iirc which is hard to fix, i don’t rember l42 having a big attachment variety. Altho l42a is more cool by far tbh.

I don’t think smartscope is bad i’m just yapping. It’s not something i’ve used a great amount and i think it makes the most sense on semi auto high dmg weapons since you have to click a lot more then on burst and need to predict movements more and stuff to avoid missing shots. Altho not missing a burst on mk2 by not spriteclicking a beno in pack does seem helpful, since bursts have a long cooldown between. Anytime theres a ally and a beno closes the gap seems like the best situation to have a smartscope, since predicting ally movement is super finnicky just by the nature of it and you get more chances to shoot the beno and spriteclick consecutively.

10% dmg is so much tho… it’s a lot to sacrifice because if you increase your ttk on an enemy by even like .5 seconds, that will give them like half a second extra to escape if your solo. And further, if you miss any shots and your ttk goes up even HIGHER (from like 4 seconds optimal, to 7 seconds on average when u get dodged), then that .5 seconds can multiply to like .75 or even 1 whole second which can give them like extra tiles on you while chasing, or worse, extra time to slash and kill u if they close the gap. But movement speed, positioning, spacing, and justt normal counterplay also helps in dodging slashes and most abilities, it’s not completely hopeless if that happens - but your positions will still maybe be, tangibly weakened (but not that much when combined with allies if they do dmg too). I don’t think it’d affect zoning much or softening an enemy much since if an enemy is committed to going in/getting baited in with low hp anyway it’s a very low ttk. I don’t know how much it’d affect ttk, if it adds another bullet that u have to shoot then it will significantly do so, but if it doesn’t it won’t. And i also think it matters more to consider when doing solo vs solo ttk, since with group, the ttk is so low anyway that such a small difference does not make a significant difference.

So im just yapping i like mk2 more anyway mua ha ha

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because it’s a really mangled legacy attachment
it really should be rebalanced and probably resprited but wyci and so on

imo it should have a 2x magnification toggle and the downside should be something like fire rate reduction

also you should be able to put it on more guns, let us slap that shit on the HPR… or the shotgun… i mean, why not

It doesn’t – or at least it’s not supposed to, it still gives bullets ‘iff’ like the old scope to account for situations where, for example, you shoot and then someone walks into the bullet, etc, it’s just that because of the fire blocking you usually don’t get to use that aspect, it’s just a failsafe

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As stated above: being able to weave your shots in between 4 ungas when otherwise you would’ve not fired out of fear of FF means you output more damage than you ever would’ve without the smart scope.

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TLDR old attachment that used to just give you normal IFF where you could shoot through people, probably needs properly rebalancing

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It doesn’t. Bullets still get IFF trait, so even if someone runs in your bullet it won’t hurt them.

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why is this NEVERPLAYER talking like they play the game… INFECTING our glorious thread with their MISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN!!!

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im evil!!! mua ha ha!!

I had no idea… im a spreader of misinformation today. Thanks 4 the correction :3

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