Since 90% of the time you’re decreasing your team’s chance of winning.
I regularly make sub-optimal decisions as Queen because playing the meta so I can click people until they go horizontal over and over and over again is fucking lame.
I don’t care if nobody ever hives in this part of the map, we’re doing it today and you’re going to change the gameplay loop you’ve played 50000000000 times by fighting somewhere new and you’re going to like it.
Truthfully I don’t see how this ‘changes the gameplay loop’ when 9 times out of 10 it leads to an instant hive wipe and Queen either dies or is naturally forced to relocate to a defensible position. It’s just a waste of time to hold somewhere unholdable.
Fight harder and better. It’s fun because it’s more tense so doesn’t have to be most effective strategy so like, idk your point at all.
there is genuine merit to those hive positions btw, if you play well the only major risk is your very own silliness because of how easily xenos can escape from bad situations (especially if you’re actively gathering information to stay safe - which should be emphasized more). It does depend on the position but most are very playable (especially at max xeno pop) and the games meant to be fun and varied.
plus, your fighting the average frontline marine player. Not exactly the most dangerous players on average…
If your leader makes the call to run you run, if your leader makes the call to fight you fight. It can be simple as that unless you know a task that’s better for you to do. This way you are able to follow up on what they do which is the easiest way to win in this videogame.
MFW the quirky XO decides to grief the operation by forcing Delta to do FOB duty. (Please bring back mutinies, it’s the only way to police these shit XO’s)
Hate to break it to you, but the whole point of a mutiny is because you do not like the ideas that command is enforcing onto you, so you go against said ideas and bring your own; which always ends in bloodshed unless CIC surrenders (they never do).
it’s ultimately up to the admemes. There is no set in stone “point” to a Mutiny until an admin decrees one.
And I seriously doubt a majority of staff members would accept a mutiny ahelp because “wah i have to play a different role for the first time in 2000 hours instead of NPC Frontline Rifleman”
The XO is your boss (unless there is a CO but the general point stays the same here), if they want you to hold the FOB, they can order you to do so AND have you arrested legally if you do not.
This isn’t tg where greyshirts secretly have more power than Command, it’s an RP server where you are expected to atleastsomewhatact like someone in the military
Brother, I got bad news for you if you think this is true…
We’ve had mutinies cause of Bravo SL getting assigned off of FOB… pretty sure that mutiny was one of the contributors to the OP’s ban off of the server.
It is the very definition of a mutiny because “waa I have to play a different role for the first time in 2000 hours instead of NPC Frontline Rifleman”. Yeah there was more to it than that but it really just boils down to that.
I have been allowed to mutiny when CO burned a piece of paper I wrote some religious shit in. I didn’t go with it, of course.
Counterpoint to all of you folks: Squad rooms. Bravo squad has cades and general “FoB aesthetic” while other squads don’t. So it is as good as official that Bravo is the “defensive” squad.
What is so hard to accept that Bravo has to be the FoB squad while other squads don’t have definied roles other that they are not FoB squad?
Why soft-grieffing CIC staff can’t accept it? Yes it is:
But then why CIC tries to act like a dumbass and not someone atleast somewhat like in the military?
It achieves nothing other than to grief marines. Why all of those brilliant CIC players don’t go Queen roundstart and ban evolution into boiler, for example? Fuck metagaming, right? Why xenos always have to use Boiler to siege FoB? Just straight up ban it. You are the Queen, your word is holy for xenos, ban Boilers, if anyone evolves into one, then simply banish them. Why won’t you do it?
Why won’t you ban shotguns from marines as CIC softgrieffer? Fuck buckshot meta, am I right?
Oh no, you won’t do such things, you are allowed only to go against basic expectations of about half of marine playerbase by pointlessly changing FoB duty from Bravo to Delta.
Because it’s pure, undiluted copium. It goes like:
Marine example
Honestly, All Squads can try M39. They just don’t do it because they don’t want to (and they get very angry when they have to)
Many ungas ALWAYS choose mk2 and M37 buck, why don’t they try to choose another weapon? There are ~20 options and you ALWAYS choose just two? That doesn’t make sense.
Don’t you get tired of ungas ALWAYS going M37 → agrip mk2? Or do you just hate change? (useless if you are trying to guarantee the Meta of fraggers always doing the M37 buck)
I know there is a plabber Culture M37 always buck, mk2 AP frontline, M37 → agrip mk2 (or M37 → UBF) backline, But have you tried? I’m sure you can have a lot of fun if ungas pick another weapon.
Xeno example
Honestly, All castes can try to backline. They just don’t do it because they don’t want to (and they get very angry when they have to)
Many queens ALWAYS choose lurks to do the backline, why don’t they try to choose another caste? There are ~15 options and you ALWAYS choose just one? That doesn’t make sense.
Don’t you get tired of lurkers ALWAYS doing the backline? Or do you just hate change? (useless if you are trying to guarantee the Meta of lurks always doing the backline)
I know there is a Lurker Culture always backline, Ravs/Crooshes frontline, Ballers (or Praes) support, But have you tried? I’m sure you can have a lot of fun if another caste does the backline.
I have no idea why is this slop thread still alive, tbh. We’re just going in circles
I don’t think Bravo has a “FoB aesthetic” and no, Bravo being the ‘‘Defensive Squad’’ is not official (because it’s not in the rules, saying what each squad should do and their functions).
and about the CIC not acting like the military in real life, you just want a single squad to do the same fucking job every day, every month, every year, every millennium for no reason. and when someone changes a little, they start a huge riot because they simply want to. try starting a riot in real life because you didn’t like that your squad wasn’t going to do a certain function and see what happens
I mean, military wise, that’s actually how it goes. I was personally trained for my entire military career to be a fob specialist. Same with my entire unit. Hell, we had to take care of the entire American marine QRF unit in my country of like 500 marines (how I learned to tard wrangle).
Like sure, you can be expected to also learn other shit like pointmanning and whatever as basics, but you are expected to just be the fob guy for the rest of the term unless you switch or get promoted somehow.
Bravo room as the only has cades and sentry laptop. Reinforcing squad culture of being fobbits.
Charlie room as the only has plenty of food. Reinforcing squad culture of them eating their famous breakfast.
Alpha/Bravo Dorm as the only has a FoB tent and crate with either flares, or MREs.
Mapping clearly hints at Bravo being fobbits.
NO REASON?
Its just a color dude. It is not like the same people roll Bravo over and over and over. Changing Bravo to any other squad just changes color of the guys who build and maintain FoB.
Bravo just has the expectation that you will be building FoB before the round starts. Chaging that achieves nothing other than going against the expectations of pre-round players who rolled this and other unfortunate squad.
And for what? What purpose does going against expectations of players on such a basic level achieves?
As much as I hate split drops, or paradrops, they have that argument of going against the meta. Because meta is marines dropping on single DS and going somewhere (potential hive location) from FoB (marines have to establish FoB, so you can’t really call it “the meta” as it is in the rules they have to) and somebody has to set up and cade comms too.
Making that it is not Private Joe “Engi” Neer sitting at FoB, but PFC John Marine, doesn’t do anything to break “the meta”.
It is just being a softgrieffer for the sake of being a softgrieffer.
Not so long ago in a thread about “off-meta plans” I was accused that I have no proof that there are softgrieffing CIC staff while I was claiming so. This very thread and posts like yours prove it without a doubt that there are acting malicous agents with their goal to just fuck with marines while under confines of server rules.
Really, dude, just think about it straight:
You just want different people to do what other people wanted to already. Your “big difference” is guys with red/purple/blue color to do what guys with yellow color wanted. It is not a “grand strategy” or something, you just make two squads mad for no reason.
The only argument for it, which is “breaking the meta” falls like a house of cards.