Whenever a player receives a punishment they should know why and what they are being punished for.
Ensure that all incidents are adequately investigated before giving a ruling.
If you’re unsure if the situation you’re investigating is a rule break, please consult higher level staff online, or ask for clarification from a manager/head in staff discord. If its a situation that requires immediate intervention, a good-faith judgement call is acceptable, as rule clarifications can always be done after from management.
Remain Professional, no matter what happens
Constantly stay cool. Regardless of what a player says to you do not act unprofessional and get angry with them.
This also applies to the forums/Discord. Retain some level of professionalism when posting in player reports or ban appeals.
→ I feel like this is violated because of the fact he literally is encouraging people to report me, even thought he was fully capable of handling it himself.
This is the second time Warfan1815 has sanctioned me without investigating or asking me any questions via IC means. Or investigating using logs, tickets/ahelps, or investigating my side at all.
Whenever a player receives a punishment they should know why and what they are being punished for.
→ I was arrested on grounds of FtFP and NoD by order of him. Neither him via ahelps, nor the investigator asked me any questions pertaining to the situation. I repeatedly asked but the only thing that was mentioned was a ‘botched appeal’. I had to go back and forth in ahelps repeatedly trying to figure out what I did to cause my arrest warrant. I just got told “I was under investigation” (along those lines), and eventually it came to a ‘botched appeal’.
Ensure that all incidents are adequately investigated before giving a ruling.
→ Nothing was ever investigated on my part. My arrest was carried out before logs were even looked into I believe. At no point was I ever asked any questions or given the chance to defend myself before I started getting hit with sanctions. If I didn’t act out in ahelps and intentionally throw information at Warfan, I have no doubt I would’ve cought OOC sanctions for something I never did.
If you’re unsure if the situation you’re investigating is a rule break, please consult higher level staff online, or ask for clarification from a manager/head in staff discord. If its a situation that requires immediate intervention, a good-faith judgement call is acceptable, as rule clarifications can always be done after from management.
→ I wasn’t even spoken to. I don’t know how a judgement call could’ve been made.
Delta specialist informed MP Rico that he wanted to appeal.
MP Rico supposedly told the Commander (the XO at the time) that an appeal was needed. By Rico’s testimony (an MP, which cannot lie under IC oath and OOC rules), told me the XO delegated the appeal to a staff officer.
The staff officer failed to show or attend, and as such had an arrest for NoD carried out.
I handled the appeal of the SO. I denied it based off the testimony I later got from the MP (Rico). I informed the SO, that, if the MP was lying, there was nothing I could personally do about it, and to appeal to the Provost office.
I gave the pen and paper to the SO, to write the fax to Provost, and I never received a fax to send (personally).
Later in the round, Provost arrives on the ship to detain the XO.
Nearing round-end, I am detained on FtFP and NoD charges based on the appeal I denied due to the MP’s testimony.
I fax an appeal, ask for the ckey of the provost inspector’s (never to receive it, just warfan telling me they jointly authorized my arrest).
I am informed I am being investigated for ‘several rule breaks’ (never to be told what they are).
I spend the rest of my time in a cell until hijack happens and I am forced to flee.
Later on I am told I was going to cause repeated breaches of the law for illegal charges. This in question was the CE who was practically naked in her cell, who the provost inspector stacked charges on for being naked. I had no say in this except that I said I thought she took her clothes off.
I really like how you managed to investigate an arrest the XO, check logs against me, speak with your partner acting as provost, and sort out all of these allegations and act in “good faith” without even making an attempt to contact me until I ahelped asking for the Provost’s ckey. How do you act in good faith without even speaking to the other person? I could vomit allegations against you, but why would anyone act on them until they’re proven? It’s completely unacceptable to act on allegations that have no evidence backing them, especially when you completely ignore the person you’re sanctioning for them, until they begin asking questions.
I asked you for it. And considering you jointly agreed to punishing me without ever getting my side, I think they should be added to this report.
Your provost wasn’t even investigating. They didn’t ask me anything. They just brigged me.
Why did you never reach out to me so that I could give you my side and testimony? Was it so worthless that I shouldn’t even speak before getting sanctions? Like, once again, I see no reason why you could not have sent a PM asking “hey, got a sec? we have numerous accusations against you, it’d be helpful if you could give your side when you can.” instead of “you’re under arrest. Why? I refuse to elaborate. You’ll have to do that with someone else.”
Saying it in OOC, LRC, and in another PR is definitely encouraging people to make PRs. It’s unprofessional and I feel like it’s a breach of rule 3. It’s being dickish to punish me without even investigating properly, or even asking for my side. And it’s not the first time it’s happened. This is the second, and I was going to say “okay, I understand, we make mistakes, but please don’t do this a third time” until you started inadvertedly requesting people throw up PRs against me. You did this before. You initially did not rule against or for me because you wanted PRs thrown up instead. Have you ever said something like this another player? I highly doubt it.
I have much more to say, but I don’t have the time at the moment.
There was no reason you should not have PM’d me or asked your ERT to even interact with me prior to dishing out punishment. You were spoken to privately about this before, I believe by the Vice Host. And this is the second time you’ve gone into the Discord rambling about “you can always PR Beck” or something of the similar, too. I was willing to trust it was a mistake, sometimes they happen twice, but the slashes at me are unacceptable.
I was going to be a keyboard warrior and type a lot more, but that is counterproductive and helps nobody. Instead, I ask Warfan1815 be returned to moderator status for a minimum of 3 months as he has failed to demonstrate proper investigation skills by failing to ask both parties a minimum of one question before handing out punishment, and the fact he blamed what another staff member did on me before I had to point it out.
→ Enforcement of the rules
Whenever a player receives a punishment they should know why and what they are being punished for.
→ He punished me before even forming reasoning or what rule violations I broke. This is the second time this has happened.
Ensure that all incidents are adequately investigated before giving a ruling.
→ He failed to even speak with me before punishing me. This is the second time this has happened.
If you’re unsure if the situation you’re investigating is a rule break, please consult higher level staff online, or ask for clarification from a manager/head in staff discord. If its a situation that requires immediate intervention, a good-faith judgement call is acceptable, as rule clarifications can always be done after from management.
→ Nothing needed immediate intervention. Nobody was dying. When I got brigged, things were actually calming down for once. And then things started falling apart after I got brigged.
Warfan1815 failed to follow any of the ‘enforcement of the rules’ procedure, for the second time. I ask that he receives extra training on communications, so players don’t get hit for a member of staff brigging someone else. I also ask that he receives training on investigating situations. It is a bare minimum that MPs should at least try to ask both parties what is going on for investigational purposes. I think the same standard should be held for members of staff.
I also request the other member of staff involved to receive the same punishment, if Warfan saying that they did this jointly is true.
I would like to point out that the enforcement of the rules section applies to OOC punishments, not IC action taken. You were not noted/banned, so no OOC action was taken against you.
Warfan chose to not take OOC action, and instead took IC action, but informed players to file a Player Report if they felt the situation warranted it. This is well within his right, especially in a situation he seems to have been a bit uncertain of.
Effectively, all I am seeing here is that you’re upset he took IC action, which inconvenienced you for part of a round, rather than jobban you for a third time.
Let me ask, what is the outcome you want to see here?
Failing to speak to me before handing out punishment while having plenty of time to do so is not within his right. It doesn’t matter if it was IC; the situation was improperly handled.
I would be jobbanned instantly for brigging someone without even talking to them or investigating the claims behind them. Forest noted me because I got essentially lied to in an investigation and acted on it. How is it okay for staff to do it by proxy?
Refer to my previous post. I ask that he be returned to moderator status for a minimum of three months while he practices and improves upon the skills I laid out. I don’t think Warfan is a bad or malicious member of staff, and while I have seen him do good, he needs major improvement in those areas, and the way that which I was handled was inappropriate.
I see nothing here of why you couldn’t be bothered to DM me for a moment and ask what was going on. You acted using ARES, repeating logs, examining logs, speaking with whoever was running the Provost team, etc, but somehow had 0 time to shoot me a single message. It would probably take not even two minutes to shoot me a message and ask me to explain some stuff, and then you could’ve just cross-examined testimony against logs where needed.
I would’ve called it good-natured had you actually not ignored me until I had to ahelp after being punished wordlessly.
You did drop the ball. And I don’t think it’s malicious, but the situation was still handled inappropriately.
You’re rusty, and that is fine. But I think you should still be moved to moderator/senior moderator (so you can continue your events) status. But administrators really shouldn’t be so rusty that they have to issue punishments, without speaking to someone, before rolling it back if you’re wrong.
You need practice, and that’s fine, but I think your skills need major improvement.
Warfan is currently suspended from staff on an unrelated matter. As far as the ingame actions, those are a moot point since there are pending player reports where logs will pulled.
In regards to the discord allegations, people were talking about it in LRC and he did not encourage anyone to make a player report to get you. He simply said no OOC action was taken, and players could file a report if they wished to.