The infographic I pulled from the ASS TM does a pretty good job of explaining the changes. The way you put yep it is effectively changing the name of the squad from Charlie to Tango. I honestly think this is a better change, as people joining Charlie may have the same mentality/attitude of it being a full strength squad. The support squads right now are kinda expected by command to be able to perform more complex actions compared to the assault squads. Since support squad numbers are more limited, you really need more cohesion which an average Alpha/Charlie/Delta enjoyer does not have.
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God damn she sounds big
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Son 
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Fat shaming PRs smh my head
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You only have about 4 in a squad on peak hours with Charlie and then you have admins grilling you in game when everything doesn’t go perfectly. Giving up on Charlie forever now.
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Did this happen to you? Seems very odd thing for an Admin to do.
Yeah why would staff get on your ass just because you fucked up, or the op went sideways? If that happens, make a staff report, no one should be getting heat for being merely incompetent- if they were, the entire playerbase would be banned by now.
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I made a mistake as SL but it’s so complicated now. I was Charlie SL with only 4 members during peak hours. They split briefing into two so half the squads were north and half were south. The Col gave and initial order but then updated a second order later in the briefing. I get pinged by an admin while trying to SL and get grilled. I tell them that I am following the order which was the first one. After talking to the admin I figure out another one was given. Comms were down this whole time and I have a com backpack but got no calls. I am then told I am lying about the first order. I was able to prove I wasn’t by going through chat log during the game and make the correction immediately to follow orders. This is all going on during the game and me and the 4 Charlie members get wrecked after I do follow orders by 5 backline xenos. I Get noted for rule 2 and no apology for being accused of lying. Not interested in SL or Charlie anymore. I have over 100 hours of SL with no note until now.
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The thing that gets me is that A.S.S. feels less like an intuitive evolution of the game, and more of a system that requires justifying to even make sense. As others have noted, even during a high pop round, some of the support squads are tiny. CIC has enough things to track without also checking if any individual support squad has already lost 20% of it’s strength because a single marine got lunged and dragged inside a reinforced resin fortess that the squad doesn’t have the numbers or guns to realistically get them back before they’re taken to the hive. Why I say it requires justifying, is because the game really doesn’t have enough to do to need what are essentially pre-made fire teams set to do these side “objectives”. Marines hold the LZ, Comms, and push, those are the 3 things more or less required to win in any round, any other secondary objectives are only going to require a short amount of time for completion, like retrieving bodies before they perma or guarding IOs. I think this is a big part of the reason you see smashing all the support squads together quite often.
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seems like something to make an admin report over if it really did happen like that, if an admin is ruining a role for you, they might be ruining it for other people, even if you don’t have any intention to keep playing.
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Yeah next time that happens make a staff report on it, it’s better than having a role be ruined over a bad ruling
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Sounds good I will make a report now. I saved the whole admin ticket because it didn’t feel right and it happened less than 24 hours ago.
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good luck
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Its maybe a litle bit salty so say but the whole ASS system feels like its just gives you a possibility without allmost any real gameplay encourage. Like yea, you can use these new squads to play more tackticool but this style dont give you any rewards. Especialy when you realy far away from ungaball doing some smartass flank. Because it dont worth anything for xenos to just rotate their whole forces for a 2-3 minutes to cap and destroy your whole squad. Then get back to main ungaball
In this situation you have atleast a chance to run away as fast a you see 2-3 t3 xenos incoming.
But if qeen is off ovi, you are dead in the very moment you hear her footsteps. Because her cons such as low speed dosent matter when she have 3-5 other xenos folowing her,has a screen wide “you win” button ready to go and engaging with 5-7 marines without spec.
So if xenos can destory you since the moment some drone lay his eyes upon you and type “6 marines on me, east caves flank” in hive mind. Why dont you just fight in ungaball or atleast just fight with backliners on your territory.
And even when ungaball notice what there is a less xenos on frontline and decide to push more active (which almost never happens) its always worth it to get 4-5 caps with litle to no risk in exchange for some territory
And i dont know how to properly describe it but its actualy nice to play kilo-oscar when cic decide to use you to make frontline wider instead of just sending you into ungaball or to suicide flank atack. Because now you can retereat very fast to ungaball if qeen decide to fuck you up, plus you will be first to know if qeen itself decide to flank from your side to alert main forces. And even when qeen succeed and wipe your litle squad, you still have a chance to ungaball come and help you without fully changing its course
If devs realy want to change game focus from big ass TDM to more objective based and skimrish batles gameplay then they need to acutaly change xenos and their logistic. Witch they probably wont do in any nearest future. Because you cant change gameplay of one side without touching and balansing other even in game with asymmetrical balance
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Since it’s been brought up more than once, this is the round statistics for the last 2 weeks, while A.S.S has been on testmerge. I’ll let you draw your own conclusions for this as it pertains to such vague concepts such as “viability” or “balance”.
As for mechanical rewards to gameplay, If having a small group experience with a bunch of other players who are there for that same reason isn’t rewarding to you, maybe the support squad experience isn’t for you, and it isn’t meant to be for everyone. Play the squad that best suits your intended experience, not that much more to it.
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clearly ASS is a big old failure because it did not cause staggering, astounding, breathtaking, amazing increases in marine ass-kicking!!!
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unironically people are using this as some kinda of gotcha when it was never ever ever ever stated to be a goal of the project and i am so fucking tired of arguing about stuff
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Some people fear change. I can understand. Some change has hurt them. This? This opens up more. Give it time. Time heals all wounds. ASS has been a good shake up.
If I want to play Assault SL I have 2 slots to roll for, compared to 4 slots in Support & Security.
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cannot keep doing this
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