CampinKiller - Commanding Officer Application

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Commanding Officer Application - CampinKiller

What is your BYOND key?

CampinKiller

What is your Discord ID?

CampinKiller

What is your timezone in UTC?

UTC-6 (CST)

Player Name You Use Most?

Kara Walker (non-XO roles), Caroline A.W. Ljungman (XO)

Ban Appeals, Whitelist and Staff Applications:

CampinKiller - Synthetic Application | Accepted Synth Application

Have you been banned in the last 3 months?

No

If so, why?

N/A

Command Knowledge:

How familiar are you with command positions?

I am very familiar with command on the server, be it in these positionsā€™ actual mechanical functions, or the actual position of command itself.

I know the game mechanics well, I can run CIC on my own if really needed (and have done so before), from loading and firing OBs, sending supply pads, and keeping watch on the operation with the tablet (or consoles).

In terms of the actual position of command, I make frequent announcements, stay in constant communication, and generally make good tactical/strategic decisions (in my view). I donā€™t lord over the marines as some sort of dictator, but instead direct them and work with them to help them do their jobs. Additionally, I know how to delegate and trust my department heads, SOs, and SLs with various tasks, especially if my attention is currently required with the operation.

Hours in XO:

49.4

Hours in SL:

18.1

Character Information:

Why did your character decide to become the CO of a ship?

Caroline A.W. Ljungman is a product of the USCMā€™s A.W. soldier program, and like the vast majority of A.W.s, has had a profound sense of duty instilled in her. She tested into Officer Candidate School during her secondary education as she demonstrated the necessary skills and qualities for leadership. Being an A.W. who has been entrusted with a commission, she is keenly aware of the trust that has been placed in her, even though not all rank and file marines are accepting of her. To her, though, being a commanding officer is something that she wanted to do to prove the trust in her as being well-placed. Further, if she were given the opportunity to command, she sees it as her duty to do so, as that is where the USCM has determined her skills are needed.

How did your character attain the position of CO?

Caroline is by no means a wunderkind rapidly promoted through the ranks, but rather achieved her promotion by her hard work, performance, and skillset. Her promotion through the ranks occurred in a rather normal manner. She began her career as a platoon commander, leading a platoon of marines in colonial security duty on one of the many planets that have had armed insurrections in the Neroid sector. Eventually, she was promoted and reassigned to serve aboard a ship similar to the USS Almayer as a staff officer. After some time in this position managing forces from above and sometimes the ground, she was again transferred and made executive officer of a vessel, where she has remained to this day, having submitted her promotion packet and appeared before her promotion board, waiting to hear her result.

Provide a short story of your CO.

Command Actions:

When do you believe itā€™s appropriate to pardon a prisoner?

I believe itā€™d be appropriate to pardon a prisoner for a couple reasons. First, that they are genuinely remorseful for their actions and are not likely to reoffend. Sometimes people fuck up, or they are new and donā€™t know whatā€™s going on. Second, that they are critical to the ongoing operation, such as being the only doctor. Thatā€™s not to say that simply being critical should earn a marine a pardon, but it is certainly a factor to consider if a pardon is appropriate, as thereā€™s less sense in risking my own self for a rifleman as opposed to a doctor.

Give some examples of when you would or would not use pardon.

Example 1: A PVT rifleman has been arrested for destruction of government property and failure to follow procedure after shooting out a window near briefing and not keeping their rifle stowed. They are very apologetic and keep stating that they didnā€™t mean to shoot the rifle but rather stow it when asked. This is a pretty clear situation where they are guilty, but they are obviously a new player who just didnā€™t know what they were doing or misclicked. While they are not critical to the operation as just a rifleman, I would still pardon them based on this being a case of them being a noob, and direct them to an SEA (if one existed).

Example 2: The only doctor awake has been arrested after getting into a fist fight with another marine. They are not remorseful for fighting the marine, but they have not given the MPs any grief or been demanding a pardon because of their position as the lone doctor. Given that the operation will need a doctor and their issue seems to solely revolve around the marine they fought, who they are not likely to see again, I would grant them a pardon, though I would have an MP stay with them until the marine deployed to ensure nothing happens.

Example 3: Similar to the above situation, the lone doctor awake has been arrested for getting into a fight with another marine. They are not remorseful, and are in fact demanding a pardon because of their importance to the operation, going so far as to scream over comms and cause issues for the MPs. I would not grant them a pardon in this case, as even though they are important, their behavior seems to me like they would be incredibly likely to reoffend down the line, as well as causing further issues with the MPs while they are in the brig.

Example 4: A squad leader is arrested for disrespecting a superior officer after they insulted the XO prior to the briefing. They ask for a pardon based on the fact that they are a squad leader and claim that the XO baited them into the charge by talking down to them and state that they would do it again if the XO continued. I would not pardon them in this instance as even if the XO did bait them, they should have come to me to handle the XOā€™s behavior, and Iā€™m not willing to pardon someone over DASO generally, and the squad leader has even said they would continue if the XO did. I would also tell the XO to knock it off, because their behavior is not appropriate.

When do you believe itā€™s appropriate to use a Battlefield Execution?

Battlefield executions are a privilege that shouldnā€™t be taken lightly. In my view the two main reasons to perform one would be ā€œdamage controlā€ to a threat to your command or an immediate threat to life or limb. For example, if a marine were to directly attempt to kill you, and there was not a feasible alternative involving detainment (no MPs, MPs out to lunch, etc.), a BE should be used to end the threat.

Give some examples of when you would or would not use Battlefield Execution.

Example 1: A marine in my immediate vicinity begins either shooting at myself or other marines, and MPs are not in the area. In this case, in order to protect the lives of other marines and/or myself, I would battlefield execute the marine.

Example 2: During hijack, a marine who is unhappy with my decision to not call for evac and has been calling me incompetent begins repeatedly screaming to ā€œKill the CO,ā€ and attempting to rile up more marines to do so. As this is a direct challenge to my command and threat against my life by someone with means and motive, and there is no feasible way to detain them during a hijack, I would battlefield execute them.

Example 3: I have deployed groundside and am getting coordinates for a potential OB when suddenly I am riddled with bullets but not downed. A PVT who was standing behind me is lit up by the Honor Guard in response, but before they die they say that they misfired. Given that this is probably a newer player, I would not BE them for what appears to be an honest mistake at the front.

Example 4: The Alamo is holding groundside during an FOB siege and there have been intermittent breaches of the perimeter, but no significant threats to the dropship, and the FOB is not presently breached. The DCC calls and asks for permission to evacuate, which I deny. A few minutes later, with the situation unchanged, the Alamo launches and leaves several marines behind on the LZ, which is eventually overrun. An IO immediately takes responsibility over the radio, stating that they ordered the DCC to launch. While the DCC is guilty of assisting the IO in desertion, I would not BE the DCC since they could both be detained by MPs shipside and they were being pressured by a ranking officer (even though it was against my direct order).

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Your discord status says youā€™re former staff. My guess is youā€™ve played a LOT more of XO or SL than just what is technically on record. Iā€™d mention that to get it out of the way, if that is the case. A lot of people donā€™t like it when an applicant had bare or above bare minimum hours for the application.

Good luck, and also how the fuck do you pronounce that last name? Ley-young-man? Lee-oung-man?

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Could you post your full marine hours?

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SL hours are too low, and having played with you as XO, I can confidently say that your communication skills and clarity in communication of orders are lacking. In some rounds you were outright silent and/or entirely oblivious to the groundside situation.

This would be ironed out with more (RECENT) playtime experience in SL/SO roles, but I will leave a -1 for now until you show that you can confidently analyse the situation without getting overwhelmed by all the information coming your way.

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I did play a lot of CO back in the neolithic era before a WL even existed for the role, yes. As to how to pronounce it, Iā€™ve just gone with ā€œLa-jung-man,ā€ no idea if thatā€™s even correct.

https://i.gyazo.com/e341ebfb0edc8752ecce5ec85942fdbb.png

I can confidently say Iā€™ve never once been silent or oblivious to the situation on the ground (at least with the information available to me). Iā€™ve certainly had rounds where I was not as up to snuff, as we all have, but I am well-aware of the need for communication, which is why I am typically spamming announcements on cool-down, especially in the early stages of an operation. Iā€™ve also never personally felt overwhelmed by the information Iā€™ve gotten.

My SL hours meet whatā€™s required, so I disagree that they are too low based on numbers alone.

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i cant say i see you as a SL that much however your XO Character i know and for all the times i had it as a XO i can confirm that you have given orders and informed of possible flanks and what-not, as all XO i played with, some orders worked and other dont but you have always talked in command radio and informed the SL and aSL (me) you also have confidence and after reading you CO story i can say that i hope to see you as one soon 1+

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Kara Walker, Caroline A.W. Ljungman, and Marie, are all names of easily recognizable characters. Players who have engaged in CM13 in recent months are sure to know just who these characters are.

CampinKiller shows expertise in command, as well as supportive roles from when I have played alongside them. Their communication is very straight-forward and damn-near constant. Theyā€™ve been shown to handle the high-level stress that comes with command-driven roles, and can properly manage themselves in every round. Their roleplay alone is engaging, sticks to acquitted personalities of characters, and most importantly is fun. Iā€™ve no doubt that CampinKiller can uphold the position and respect of the CO WL, as well as the taxation that comes with it. I found myself enjoying the story that was provided as well.

+1

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Hi there!

In what is apparently becoming somewhat of a common trend for me, I have not yet seen you in a command role that I can recall, so the feedback I plan to provide will be exclusively limited to the written components of your application.

Im going to leave the contents of your CO story to someone more qualified in creative writing than myself, and first focus on a few points I was hoping you could clarify on in your Pardon/BE responses.

Pardon Answers

First things first, there are very few wrong answers when it comes to pardons, and they are left very vaguely defined in the CO code of conduct. Instead, the applications of pardons are dictated by the individual philosophies of each commander, and are assessed by your ability to stay consistent in their usage.

You have pretty clearly defined Major Ljungmans criteria for a pardon as the following:

  • They are remorseful for whatever they have done
  • They are not likely to re-offend

Personally, I cannot understand why Major Ljungman would view this rude Doctor as worthy of a pardon, as they do not likely fit into either of your criteria, based on how you have defined your pardon philosophy previously. The Doctor, while polite to the MP, is not remorseful for their crime, nor can they justify their crime as being ā€˜for the good of the operationā€™. To me, this whole situation screams likely to re-offend, and they should not be able to utilize their important station to bend rules in a way that allows them to fuck around, not say sorry, and get a pardon from the CO.

A Doctor who got into a fistfight with a Marine, while pretty LRP to begin with, is not someone you want to be legally responsible for by granting them a pardon for their actions.

BE Examples

Overall, reading through your provided examples, I can tell youā€™ve been playing it super safe with whats written. While all of your answers are correct, they are far too surface level in my opinion. Most of your answers boil down to either ā€œthis was not their fault, so I would not BEā€ or ā€œthey are a threat to my safety and that of my operation, I would BEā€, and again, while neither of these responses are incorrect, you do yourself a disservice by not trying to explore outside the box situations that you will undoubtedly run into at least once as a Commander.

The point of asking you to provide BE/Pardon examples is twofold.

  • Number one, the CO Council wants assurances that they can trust you in the most powerful position in the game, and that you know what youā€™re doing.
  • Number two, we are trying to gauge your legal philosophy through your answers, and to judge what kind of move you would make when a tough decision inevitably comes your way.

By playing it safe, and giving extremely basic answers throughout your application, all you are doing is kneecapping yourself in the long run, because the Council never really gets a decent idea of who your character is, and what they stand for, beyond just reciting the CO code of conduct.

Another point I thought I should mention, is that your hours stick out like a sore thumb. Iā€™m not going to be the dude that pretends CM is their full-time occupation, and that anyone who plays less than 400 hours a day is a casual, but at the same time, 18 hours on SL is really not great. Its been a few years since the great playtime wipe, and as we creep into mid-2024, I am becoming less and less willing to give people the benefit of the doubt when they have 3 MP hours on record.

The game has changed a lot since the old days, and the bar for almost everything is through the roof compared to 2018.

That said, I was wondering if youā€™d humor me with a couple of questions to test your knowledge of ML, and the CO code of conduct.

I've drafted a couple of legal questions below, that I was hoping you could respond to. Given, I am not a member of the CO Council, so these are not mandatory to answer by any means.

  • As Major Ljungman manages the marine push from Hydro to T-Fort on LV624 from CIC, one of your Staff Officers receives a phone call from Charlie Specialist with OB coords, despite Comms being up and running. This Staff Officer then proceeds to dial and fire on these coordinates without asking permission from you or the XO. The cluster OB ends up landing on top of the Marine push, killing and gibbing a majority of the front, eventually resulting in the total collapse of the frontlines. How would you proceed?

  • Whilst you are deployed on the ground, with the XO in charge of CIC and the operation as a whole, an MP accidentally discharges their sidearm into the CMP, being arrested and charged with assault. The MP appeals the charge to the XO, on the basis that an accidental discharge does not count as an assault, and is denied. The MP and CMP then verbally describe the circumstances of the arrest to you in a manner that would allow a legal pardon, should you choose. How would you remedy this situation?

  • Throughout an operation also on LV624, while organizing the startup-phases for squads (establishing Comms, building FOB, rallying at Hydro, etc), your XO routinely contradicts your orders by trying to get Marines to follow a completely different plan to your own, commanding Charlie and Delta to abandon Comms, and rush into the Xeno lines without backup. Despite directly asking the XO to stop confusing the operation with their random orders, they almost tune you out, and continue to urge Marines to rush secured Xeno positions. How do you respond?

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So before I get to the rest of this, I may as well address the playtimes. To first address what you said about MP hours, I played it after first considering applying because I knew I needed to know ML. The problem for me is that I get absolutely zero enjoyment out of playing MP. It is not fun to me at all, and I still believe that even after trying it a few other times past the first round (in fact the first round was so unenjoyable I messaged sammy asking if MP hours were required). It just isnā€™t fun for me, which is funny because in regular ss13 I do enjoy playing security. I have gone over ML and SOP many times, and keep it open when Iā€™m playing so I can reference it, which is a lot better solution thatā€™s worked for me, at least, than playing hours and hours of a role that I donā€™t enjoy when it isnā€™t required.

As for other hours, I really am not a fan of being judged on playtime. Like you said, this isnā€™t a job or anything. I work full time so I cannot crank out the rounds in this game that some can (though ironically since I work from home partially I do spend some working hours playing), but in my view playtime isnā€™t very relevant past a certain point, outside of raw experience. There are people who have 100+ hours in roles and donā€™t have a clue or donā€™t do things properly. I think referencing medals is cringe, but I will do it here only to make a point: in my second or third SL round since I returned to CM in November of last year, I was given a medal for the manner in which I led, coordinated, and communicated with my squad and CIC, and I had less than 5 hours in the role. Have I seen every possible scenario? No, but I can play SL well, even with sub-20 hours on record (hopefully you agree with that after that Shivas round we played earlier haha).

Pardons
I should clarify, I didnā€™t explicitly state it, but there is a criticality factor there, but itā€™s less than the other criteria. I am going to be less likely to pardon a rifleman, for example, than the only medical personnel awake, because there is no good reason from an operational standpoint to stick my neck out for the rifleman. I donā€™t want to fall into the trap of criticality being the only factor though, where specs, SGs, etc think they have a get out of jail free card, because they do not. Hence why the bigger two are their likelihood to reoffend and level of remorse. Overall though I aim to be consistent, but it all has to be handled case-by-case, so outlining several concrete criteria is difficult. For example, if someone is being negligent (and they are NOT obviously brand new), just simply being remorseful or it being an accident isnā€™t going to cut it.

As for the second example that you mentioned, while they are not remorseful of their actions, this is a case where there is a singular doctor awake, so it is a life or death situation for marines. Now, an assault charge is only 15 minutes and the marine may not have dropped yet, BUT an operation will need a doctor in some fashion at some point, usually quickly. While they may not be remorseful, judging by their behavior after the fact they donā€™t seem likely to re-offend. Obviously there are other factors to consider: was the doctor the instigator, was it a heat of the moment punch vs. an actual beatdown, etc. In a vacuum though, with them being the only shipside medical personnel, and not indicating they would go and do it again based off of their post-fight behavior, I would pardon them, though still keep an MP with them so long as that marine was shipside.

Iā€™ll start with the spec. The specialistā€™s use of a phone to contact overwatch and feed OB coordinates that then landed right on top of marines is incredibly suspect, since comms were up. While Iā€™ve called people on the radio before with comms up, it was after people did not respond over the radio normally and I knew they had a phone. While a simple mistake in coordinates or calling in something too close could be overlooked, going around the one system that could have stopped that OB from being called (ie. me yelling not to fire that over the radio) and splashing an OB in the middle of the marine force seems very intentional. If not a blatant act of sabotage and wanton murder, it is gross negligence that claimed the lives of the majority of the marine force, and I would BE the specialist.

It gets a little trickier with the SO. At the very least the SO is guilty of neglect of duty and manslaughter (deriving from their neglect) for firing without permission and killing many marines as a result. Itā€™s hard to say for certain that they intended to fire on the front, given that they were fed the coordinates, and they may well just be new and got excited to fire an OB. At the same time, given the phone usage and lack of communication, it may well have been intentional. Regardless, since they are shipside and I am not, and therefore within reach of the MP staff, I wouldnā€™t consider BEā€™ing them. If I determined their actions to be just overexcitement, then I would order their arrest on the charges of neglect of duty and manslaughter. If there was any indication it was intentional though, I would order their arrest for murder, to preferably be later executed by the MPs, assuming their appeal fails. I think the main factor to consider with the SO is their behavior after the OB (ie. are they flipping out because they just gibbed 20 marines or acting like nothing happened?)

This is a tricky one, it gave me a lot to think about with ML and pardons. I presume that since they were arrested as an MP they were also charged with neglect of duty, though I suppose thatā€™s incidental to the situation itself. By the letter of the law the charge does require ill intent to be present. Considering the spirit of the law, though, someone acting in a negligent fashion by accidentally discharging a firearm can be considered equivalent to ill intent, in my view, as you should not be waving your sidearm around in the first place. Thatā€™s a level of obvious negligence, where you should know that having it out and potentially shooting it could seriously hurt someone. In this case I would not pardon them, though I would advise them they may still make an appeal to high command.

This is a very clear-cut case of sedition. If the XO in this case had been warned to stop and continued down their course of action, I would BE them. Firstly because they are directly threatening my command by persisting in their actions and undermining my authority as commander. Second, because depending on the situation (briefing bubble, CIC, etc) there is a danger that summoning MPs to arrest them may cause a larger fiasco/fight (especially if this was going on in briefing, for example) that would detract from the operation as a whole, and the XO continuing to give conflicting orders and encourage suicide charges needs to be remedied immediately, especially if the marines are already on the ground.

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Hey there, @CampinKiller!

I have already shared my opinion with the Council and other COs, so I will keep it simple here.

First of all, I donā€™t really care your playtimes, as long as you meet the requirements set by the Council, Iā€™m fine with it. What I like most in you and that is important for an Officer to have is managing cohesion and stress well. You proved that in todayā€™s Chanceā€™s Claim round. I observed most of the rounds you played as XO, I find the announcements you made sufficient. The more announcements you make, the less seriously you will be taken, what is important is the readability of the announcements you make, whether they reflect your character, and the quality of the information and orders they contain. There are a few things I didnā€™t like about the announcements, but theyā€™re not big enough to be worth mentioning here, Iā€™ll tell you privately in Discord DMs later if you want. Finally, I think your roleplay is appropriate for a high-ranking officer. I have not encountered any LRP incident yet, if I encounter such a thing in the future, my thoughts towards you may change.

As for ML knowledge. This is a subject that I have extensive knowledge of, both because I am a Staff and because I have been playing MP for a long time. The fact that you are a former Staff gives me confidence, after all, ML and MP knowledge is a sought-after feature in a Staff. To put it simply, almost all ML and appeal situations are based on common sense, as long as you memorize a few tricks and topics connecting CO and ML, I donā€™t think you will have much trouble. Nobody will call you to arrest someone anyway, thatā€™s MPā€™s job. What you need to do is to collect the evidence given to you, and make the final decision, as the highest authority on the ship, and not break any rules while doing so.

I think you would do great as a Commanding Officer, donā€™t make me regret : )

+1

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Hello again!!

Over the past couple of days, Iā€™ve been super impressed by your willingness to get your name in the public eye, especially through your work as SL (and yes, I do remember the Shiva round :skull: ).

I am going to endorse this application for the following reasons:

  • I have seen you a bunch in leadership roles recently, and I am thoroughly impressed by your abilities, particularly as SL, despite your hours (which goes to show, hours arenā€™t everything, as you said)
  • Whenever I have interacted with you, I have seen professionalism, and responsiveness, even in the most dire of circumstances
  • Im really happy with your answers to my provided questions, and yet again, you have proven your competency beyond your recorded hours

Fly high Major Ljungman! Welcome back to CM

+1!

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Had the pleasure to serve under the player in the last weeks.
Good at RP and willing to interact, had multiple pleasant talks as CE,Scout,CL and other roles with them.
Knows how to play the maps and how to formulate a plan.
I also like the answers and the general flow of this post.
+1 from me good luck!

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Sup this is a lil over do from me. Extremely impressed with your command ability as youā€™re one of the most solid XOs Iā€™ve seen in a while. Iā€™m already doing a massive +1 but I do have a question. Will being an AW affect your RP in certain ways?

+1

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Yeah, I mainly chose to make the AW because I thought itā€™d open a lot of interesting RP (Peralta actually got presented with a petition for me to resign because I was one recently). I felt Iā€™d of had to tone down my mainā€™s personality if I used that character, but then got the idea for an AW and kinda ran with it. The main things Iā€™m trying to get across with the character though is that, yeah sheā€™s an AW, but sheā€™s not a robot, she still has her own feelings, concerns, cares, etc. Sheā€™s aware of the stigma, and if it comes up will either jokingly play into it (like with Chen and Calhoun the other day in CIC) or just avoids it entirely if itā€™s a more hostile sort of tone. Though she will still have her ā€˜momentsā€™ like when Chen and Calhoun were talking to her after the DS crash and she was still more concerned about the ship lodged behind them than them saying how impressed they were.

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Been mulling over this application a bit before posting. So I want to start this off by saying when I first saw you grinding XO about a month or so ago I honestly wasnā€™t that impressed. Iā€™m not entirely sure what it was but it just felt like a lot of rounds ended up as complete catastrophes, communication was a tad slow, briefing/orders were kinda whatever and it seems like you were de-rusting more or less. I remember seeing people insulting/yelling at you in last-round-chat on discord during some of those rounds which no one should be doing.

That being said you clearly have CO mentality and thick skin because you kept grinding away despite the negativity and disasters and I think in the last 2 weeks or so youā€™ve really started to hit your stride. Comparing the first round I saw you XO to the last round I saw you XO itā€™s a really big difference in my opinion. It was Fiorina, I was a SO and Chen was the CO, he more or less made it known you had total authority over the operation and he was going to observe/judge. Well you knocked it out the ball park and did everything you needed to do, orders were good, communication was great, CIC was a well oiled machine.

Your roleplay is good from the interactions Iā€™ve had with you, self evident by you being on the synthetic whitelist as well - this also means you know ML better than most. All my interactions with you have been pleasant and without issue. All in all I think with every round youā€™ve played youā€™ve improved and instilled more confidence in those around you that you are a solid command player which isnā€™t something a lot XOs are able to do.

+1

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This comment is long overdue (as I mentioned to you on discord), but Iā€™ve been pleasantly surprised every time I have had you as my XO. Youā€™ve demonstrated to me that you have a willingness and desire to RP, the skills and wherewithal to be a competent and excellent commander, and enough knowledge of the Code of Conduct to not get yourself in hot water with the whitelist authorities (Booker Peralta with Angry Eyebrows).

Any notes I have on your Pardon or BE answers have either already been expressed, or are simply too minor to motivate me to put them into actual words.

So, without any further delay I am happy to give you a solid +1!

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As I return from my Ā« long Ā» (1 1/2y) CM hiatus Iā€™ve experienced the disappearance of almost every character I recognize, with you being one of the few exceptions, and even fewer still, one of the people I remember interacting with.

My experiences with you have been nothing but positive, and seeing as it seems you havenā€™t become a shitter over the last year, I feel obliged to give you a glowing appreciation, despite what little my opinion is worth.

+1.

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Youā€™ve got a lot of community support for both your RP and command ability, which are great. The only feedback the Council has had, at least, regarding you is that you should continue working on your character personality (which some say is a little on the ā€œblandā€ side at the moment) as well as improving your responsiveness to radio communications, which a Councilor said could have used work ā€“ these aside though, you were lauded for competence and remaining cool under pressure.

About playtime hours: the app tutorial thread clearly states a threshold for the hours needed to apply for CO: 40 XO hours and 15 SL hours. Once you cross that threshold you are eligible to apply, itā€™s not a matter of how many hours you have over the threshold or not. Of course more experience always helps your chances but I donā€™t want you or any applicant thinking they arenā€™t qualified for CO because theyā€™re not 30 hours over the 15-hour mark or whatever - a floor is a floor. Overall just work on the legitimate feedback people have provided in here and youā€™ll be even more splendid.

That aside, the Council have decided to accept your application and approve your promotion. Relevant permissions will be granted within the next 10 minutes or so. Congratulations, Major Ljungman.
Welcome to the CO whitelist!

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Added co:approved and removed co:waiting