Gonna be honest here, this is purely because I’m genuinely annoyed of people afking on larva or as T1/T2, expecting the rest of the players to clean up the map, weed the map and do other menial chores just so they can instantly evo into T2/T3.
Just remove the passive, infinite evo gain larvas get. Right now larvas get infinite evo even without a queen being present or on ovi, as long as marines haven’t dropped, causing a lot of players pre 00:13 to just chug up on evo before nearly instantly evolving into their desired T2. This is especially frustrating when you realize that other xenos are either trying to capture survivors ( Woops, no evo for you because you have 10 damage teehee )
Tie evo gain to activity, not just movement inputs but xenos breaking tables, talking, melting or being engaged in combat. I don’t think some random T1/T2 who’s afking in the hive doing absolutely nothing deserves to gain evo if they don’t plan to contribute to the hive especially during the early set-up phase
Also just straight up remove the restriction of evolution pre-marine drop when it comes to health. We already have a system in place where xenos gain their old plasma amount post evolution so just add the same for health. Ergo a Xeno with 300/500 HP that evolves into a T3 with 650 health would have 300/650 HP. Would avoid the issue of xenos just evolving in front of survivors to regain health incase that becomes a worry.
Essentially, any xeno can afk and just spam the evolve key because apparently not being able to build (not true since the drone Evo change) and choosing not to prepare the colony is not considered detrimental to the hive
They would just afk as drones, and if they miss their slot then devo and revo into the other T1s, losing out on 60 evo. This doesn’t really do much in that case.
terrible idea. Let’s take a simple example where a good player, currently warrior, took out some survs and is now roaming to see if there is another one. Oh, he forgot to slash random shit on the map while looking around, guess he doesn’t get T3 because movement wasn’t enough. Oh, movement is enough? you just forced the afkers to use one hand to move back and forth a bit while watching youtube. Oh that’s a problem too? Now when you ahelp admins have to see if the colony is sufficiently built up, or if they are a defender if they would destroy the colony and cap survs. Oh they are new and didnt want to die to survs? They didnt know what’s worth breaking so they just waited? People are going to be hiding their chivs so you stop ahelping them every time they didnt risk their life on civs or spent time destroying this that will probably be destroyed by CAS. Ahhh this is a nightmare. On top of that the code for this would require constant checks to see if you can or cannot get evo on the next tick based on actions, which adds just a little bit to lag.
This is a fine suggestion if just before drop. There are times xenos can abuse this, like a xeno gets onboard almayer, goes lurk, fights till low health, morphs to drone, heals, morphs…basically the full health restriction stops some special case shananagans.
I actually do. Queen can assign ‘priority’ flags to xenos, one for T2 and one for T3. at 14 min mark, only T2-flagged xenos can go T2. at 15 min mark anyone can. At 20 min mark only T3-flagged xenos can go T3, 21 min mark anyone can go T3. In this way you make the queen have the decisions on who is lazy and who is not.
edit: still problems with this though. Now you may have a queen with favoritism even for lazy sisters. Ah well there’s a reason this problem wasnt solved yet.
You have to shift your mindset. You do not punish people for not wanting to suicide or mindlessly build. You reward those who stepped up to do it.
Every single queen would give that exclusively to prime xenos and their metabuddies. This would be a large xeno buff, and other nerfs would come to compensate it, meaning that it’d be throwing to NOT give it to the afk prime rav.
It’s so much more valuable to have prime ravs than it is to have the colony built up, unfortunately. This would be great for people with hours and name recognition, but it would absolutely suck ass for newer xeno players who might genuinely be working hard pre-drop.
Why? Because dying at 0.05 because you tried to hunt survivors is utter ass. You miss all your evo. You might not even respawn (after) marines land and who knows if you would be EVEN be able to play again.
It’s the same as evoing to T2. I HATE all T2 evolutions, I am horrible at them. I can drone for the first 14 minutes, but then there’s 6 minutes where I won’t do anything as lurker. Because I cannot play as a lurker. It an actual skill and IRL motor issue at this point. But I love playing ravager.
Would it be fair that I never ever get to play ravager? I don’t think so. Every other idea so far, of selecting who gets to X, is completely unfair.
The best idea is to let Xenos evolve if they are hurt, at least before marines land. Or hell, when have you seen a T2 or a moment where they could Evo mid combat to change a situation? So it should always be possible.
I love to build as a drone, and I love to do it as a hivelord. I can do it for the first 15-20-30 minutes. But no more.
Let hivelords Evo to ANY T3 and you will see so many new hivelords playing.
Or let us keep evo on devolve. I have had people be like NEED CARRIER NEED CARRIER AHH, and im like? okay, okay, guys, don’t sweat. I don’t mind going carrier, ill give up my t2, devolv, and then go carr- anddd someone took carrier wordlessly, anddd my slot is gone, thanks.
Alternatively just say fuck it and expand on my last suggestion by letting drones evo into T3 directly, especially when you want to focus on building instead od breaking things
The fucked up part about this is sometimes you’re not even hunting survs.
I don’t pretend to be the best xeno but as a drone if you’re doing your pre-drop weeding like you SHOULD BE DOING, and you run into a surv or two, on occasion they’ll get brave and just rush you. And one drone versus two survs who managed to get even moderately okay loot can wall you if you get unlucky.
Granted, this rarely ever happens because 90% of the time you can see the light and bail, but I have absolutely blundered my way into a surv while the power was still on and died because of it. Those times it happens, a lot of the time, you get fast respawns.
Other times, you’re just out for an hour because you fucked up at 7 minutes in the round.
soooo a T3 takes up a T2 and T3 slot. For instance once a warrior goes crusher a T2 slot does not open up. I like the thought but not sure how you get a drone to T3 when T2 slots are all taken.
realistically none of this matters, if we are comparing the effort we are putting in i kill and capture more marines then everyone else in the hive most of the times i play, does this mean everyone else should be able to play less because i do more? dont be silly, sure not everyone who afks does as much as the good players who are probably alt tabbed waiting for the game to start, but remember that just like how their contributions isnt just for themselves, neither is yours, you can choose not to do anything effective, theres no gun to your head, its a 20 man hive of people who came from work, are doing something else etc, theres no set rules because it would be silly to expectations of somebdy to do something, because why then are the people doing less then me allowed to play? the bar isnt there because if a bar was set we would have to cater to better players since they are already doing %90 more work then most people in the hive
I can also argue that if you cant capture a few survivors without me, then you’re not deserving to play either, a lot of this nonsense stuff like le hecking slash tables or apcs becomes obsolote, because it geniuenly doesnt matter, apcs can be repaired pretty fast (where they matter) but its really impossibly shallow to think this deep into the game because at the end of the day not everyone is there to sweat their balls off
The game becomes a thousandfold more enjoyable when you stop thinking about the bigger picture and just enjoy your own fun, if your only objective is to win, you’re not going to have fun, because we cannot limit how people play the game, because this isnt a competitive game, you can try your hardest, be sweaty whatever, if you’re satisfied with your own performance in your own round, thats the besy way to get enjoyement out of the game. If you’re having an aneruysm because people arent slashing tables, you’re just ruining your own time for yourself.
Obviously what i said doesnt apply to leader roles, like the queen, the CO etc, roles that are basically signing up for “responsibility” everyone else is just there for enjoyement
If I am sitting sleeping at hive, I am doing other things. Reading this forum. Talking with a friend, watching a movie. Perhaps even doing something IRL and perhaps truly being ten meters away from the keyboard. If I heard a weird sound, I return to the PC. I have been playing this game so long that I have an internal clock that tells me when the evo timer is coming close. So I return to evo T2 and then do something else for 5 minutes to get T3.
If I wanted to play, I would be doing whatever you are saying. The thing is, I dont want to.