This shit is funny as fuck. Running into CL’s office covered in blood, realizing you don’t have a gun - “One sec” - quickly rushing to go steal one, then blowing his fucking head off is pure kino
I pray that CLFbro is in the clear and admins are merciful with their ruling
CLF rules are really bleak and should be reworked to avoid these kinds of reports 
One gimmick I always wanted to try as DP but I just know it’d create dangerous levels of salt, is not letting survivors off the Alamo until MPs clear them. It’s kind of reasonable, you’d expect the Almayer to have some kind of Entry Control Point
I get why CL is annoyed, it’s a dumb way to have your round ended, but honestly this kind of shit should be encouraged and normalized. I want MPs on high alert whenever there’s a survivor on board kekekkekek
I think the rule should just be “if you’re hostile CLF, do whatever the fuck you want, but don’t you fuckin dare let anyone perma (shipside)”
Amen brother. Sidenote, I was going to open the shutter north of your office but I heard people outside and didn’t wanna get chased so i left it closed. in hindsight i could’ve left the window open.
That should be SOP.
It would be if our current shipside checkpoints weren’t total abysmal dogshit with every checkpoint being able to be bypassed using maintenance tunnels
I am an MT main so I have a certain bias towards Maints. However, another solution would be better communication between DP, DCC & MPs. Mps should be ready at the DS when survivors are coming up.
I mean, this will just insentivice the groundside marines to perma the CLF more. Because they have gotten better by just gunning them down, cuff them, then revive them. Instead of beheading them and having them be a trophy in fob.
But yeah, by the rule of “You have remained “consistently hostile” to USCM forces.”, which they didn’t, i don’t think the surv has much to stand on. By the mere fact that they refrained from going out on the doctors who revived him, then ran from said medical past doctors and whoever was in medical, to grab a gun upstrairs, only to rush the CL of all people just to get a kill.
Edit: Just to note. He could have just grabbed any item (looks at scalpels) and started a mass stabbing in medical to actually be hostile. But he walked past “enemies” to go for a gun to actually be hostile.
If you didn’t know they were there you’d miss them.
I mean. At that point we’re straying from the RP environment and into gameplay concessions - realistically, an enemy combatant might indeed spare a doctor that saved his life. But we don’t want CLF survs running loose, so they must act like an insane madman murderhobo and kill every doctor they see before they move on to targets of actual value, like the CL.
Shouldn’t Medical and the MPs work together rather than rely on some OOC rule nonsense re: potentially hostile survivors?
The gameplay concession is understandable. I wouldn’t want my round ended because MPs sucked at their job and didnt screen a survivor, either.
But do we want believable antagonists, or murder-crazy yet minor annoyances?
You don’t get to pick and choose who is your enemy if you wanna be a hostile surv. They are either all your enemy (like how POWs have killed doctors trying to treat them), or none of them are your enemy. The entire ruling of “You have remained “consistently hostile” to USCM forces.” was so CLF couldn’t just sneak aboard, or do as the situation happened, and then gun down shipside people and perma them. Because everyone (cept the CLF ofc) thought it was the lamest shit possible.
Like, we see as the situation in the report, and if that one MP hadn’t been at the right place at the right time, the entire command structure might as well have all permad (CLF aiming head then magdumping cuz funny), which would essentially destroy the entire command structure and make it an auto xeno major (I’m a xenomain, and even I can regocnize actual bullshit).
And for the third thing. This shit is what makes maints wanna remove hostile surv, and what made them remove agents as well.
If they Revive CLF, it’s the Medic’s Fault for not properly PIDing them. Besides the CLF Would exactly do this, if possible, their aim is liberation from the 3WE and the USCM are helping 3WE Beat in civilians over attempts at being independent. Most of them are the enemy but some aren’t, and the CL Is an agent of the 3WE and evil mega Corp so yea they’d shoot them of course. Though the CLF Knowing where everything is a little stupid. They don’t know the USS Almayer by hand and shouldn’t run to areas with guns unless they stumble upon them.
Yes killing the Entire command staff is arguably Hilarious as hell especially when most of Dchat is watching it happen live though yes it would be VERY UNFAIR for the marines to lose their entire command team over one medic being stupid and or just not caring and wanting to get on the fun fact screen.
And no one will remove hostile survs anytime soon. It will be highly restrictive in what you can do cause marines cannot cope around fighting 1 or 2 people with very mediocre gear apparently.
Realistic? Yeah. Fun for everyone involved? No.
Again, I am not complaining too much about a CLF grunt who may just barely speak english navigating the alamyer to the hidden gun caches instantly just so they can essentially “metaperma” the CL because of funsies. But more just saying “Why should this be allowed to happen?” Because it is as previous stated:
but i guess we can add the ever toxic dchat to that list of exceptions.
You forgot the part where they run into CL’s office, go “wait a minute” run off, go get a gun, THEN come and murder the CL.
It litterary screams “I am only hostile if I have a gun”.
The thing is, CLF is mostly fun for one person, which is the CLF surv. MPs might get some actions, marines just consider them a burden they get to kill once, and shipside roles get permakilled when they die in an isolated corner or no one checks the crew monitor.
Do not forget the MT’s.
Sounds like a medical skill issue for not monitoring the crew monitor
The rules need to be clearer so that CLF survs can actually be hostile and have fun and not piss people off by existing. I think the argument that i ‘ran past enemies’ is a stretch because would you start stabbing the people who saved your life?
Lets also not forget that I was literally unarmed and not alive until i was in the operating room so any consistency in that moment is immediately thrown off, same as the fact that someone would be thrown off after having cardiac arrest.
There’s also the fact that people don’t know what they want. Do they want RP or do they want mindless murder? RP is out (you will get permabrigged and not do shit for the rest of round) unless you throw out your uniform (literally defeats the point of CLF surv) and mindless murder doesn’t seem to be an option because people don’t like that either.
So I don’t know what people want, the people who die are gonna report me and the people who I don’t kill are going to be used as evidence that i’m breaking the rules.
First of all, that is funny as fuck.
Second of all, if any of you have suggestions for the rule rework, please post them in the policy feedback section of the forums. We could really use an update there, but my brain is too small to come up with any well balanced ideas.