All I am saying that the sound of clicking and loading a shell into shotgun are quite similar and it’s possible to be confused in a heated situation like this, which I did. I had no reason to lie about me being sure that he loaded his gun neither then nor now. More than that, it doesn’t really matter, he could have just forgot to chamber the shell and it would take him half a second to chamber a shell and shoot me eventually. I carry shotgun only when I play PO and I don’t use it very often. I am not very good at sprite clicking so since 2019 I mainly used M41A and M39.
So you’re claiming he drew his gun not to shoot me, but to use it as a melee weapon instead? This is a bold claim and a pure speculation on your part, since even the DCC never claimed that he didn’t try to shoot me, and you made no attempt to interrogate him. He clearly tried to shoot me, hence the clicking sounds we both referred to. More than that, you can see from the logs, after the first shot put him in paincrit I buckled myself in the pilot chair (I thought he would stop trying to shoot me), while he was in the co-pilot chair. When he came back to consciousness, he continued trying to shoot me, while I wasn’t even adjacent to him, so I had to shoot him second time, which killed him. So your attempt to picture a gun as a melee weapon is a pure speculation that has nothing to do with the situation. He clearly didn’t intend to use his gun as a melee weapon, as he kept trying to shoot me when I wasn’t adjacent.
This might be true, but it doesn’t change anything, as he not only bashed me, but was also trying to shoot me both when I was and wasn’t adjacent. We both heard clicking sounds from his attempts to shoot the gun. The fact his gun wasn’t loaded and that he failed to use PB correctly only speaks of his unexpirience with the game (as he confirmed to me prior the situation in LOOC), but not in any way rules out his malicious intent to shoot me with a gun. He tried to shoot me several times, but failed, because he forgot to load his gun. It is an attempted murder by ML. Recently we had another situation, when a marine were shooting his CO with M2C, while the CO was behind a bullet-proof window. Marine couldn’t harm the CO in any way (and unlike our situation, probably didn’t even have intent to do so), but it was ruled as an attempt on the CO’s life and consequential BE was ruled as justified. Lizardima - Player Report: Immelmann A.W. Sidewinder, didn't read the rules lol
The DCC never tried to leave cockpit. He kept trying to shoot me when he came back to consciousness. I couldn’t leave the cockpit either, as I would have to put myself in additional danger, waiting for the door to open while being adjacent to a man with a shotgun, who is actively trying to shoot me. More than that, this is a cockpit of a dropship with a freaking nuke onboard. I am not forfeiting my ship to a psycho who is trying to kill me. As for asking you to escort him out, frankly, I didn’t even notice you, as you made no attempt to interfere until the whole situation was over. And since I was in active danger, waiting for you to interfere would again, put me in additional danger. He could figure to pump his shotgun at any moment, I couldn’t just wait for it.
I want to additionally point out that I did make some attempts to disengage. After my first shot I moved away and buckled myself to the pilot chair, and I only made the second shot after the DCC continued his attempts to shoot me (I am not sure if admin logs can show “clicking” but you can see it from my logs too: First shot caused a fracture, second shot caused death, between the shots you can see me buckling). The MP ruled it as “execution” anyway, despite me clearly not shooting to kill (otherwise I’d just shoot the DCC two times consequently until the deathgasp message appearance). The MP made no attempts to interrogate the DCC and made his judgement based only on his own speculations and in completely bad faith, not to mention his failure to understand the self-defense section in ML.