Without reading past the first msg. I could already reasonably guess what 80% of you said.
Pred Cope
Someone probably said Chud Pred. Grief was probably said 10,000 times.
You wanna make an abom, go ahead bro but you’re going to get a 9 foot tall Lebron built Alien Hunter whose sole purpose and job in that scenario is to obliterate it and you. I mean yeah, Should probably try and kill the preds. Before making that Abom. Maybe you won’t be as afraid to make them without risk.
I love when the community discusses ways the WLs interact with gameplay and it’s just dismissed out of hand by WL managers, really screams accountability.
“Whitelist Coordinator” yet can’t be bothered to read past the first msg?
Nope.
Accountability is what we do when we De-WL pred players for hunting Aboms in a manner that was not conducive to roleplay or enjoyment for others. A proven standard in the current whitelist that is not heavily critiqued because its applied reasonably and fairly in every round.
I’m sure this feels very dismissive for you because it is.
i dont think its going to be a big surprise for you to know that preds often join the game just to kill the abom, not sure if after observing or maybe getting pinged in discord, so even if marines dont see them xenos are going to experience hpc drive bys
and just from gameplay perspective allowing them to do so is just… meaningless. xenos already went through pain of getting a pred down potentially losing numbers and time, why punish them for doing so? why cant i, a marine, try and fight a rare xeno strain?
Sure but this thread isn’t about saying that pred players are breaking the Whitelist rules, it’s arguing that the current way aboms function not “conducive to roleplay or enjoyment for others”. It just seems silly that the synth WL can have an open communtiy discussion which leads to direct mechanical changes to how synths work (not saying that pred need to be reworked) but any actual discussion about preds leads to this strange defensiveness. There’s nuance everywhere if you had only the eyes to see
Or maybe getting pinged in discord
its against the rules to announce abominations outside of the game, the predator channel getting pinged for abominations is a meaningless myth perpetuated by people like you who gaslight themselves into thinking tons of pred players join the round only for the abom.
And from a gameplay perspective allowing them to do so is just…meaningless.
This is a roleplaying game, why would i break character and continue to let an abomination continue living. You’re a PVE game master you should know this better than most.
Why cant i, a marine, try and fight a rare xeno strain?
Abominations are encouraged by mechanical means to fight humans, as they grow in power by a huge margin with kills. Moot point because of this.
The official CM pred channel? Yeah, it is moderated and there are none of this naughty behaviour. On private channels? Bet my ass there are.
It is not a myth that preds suddently pop like mushrooms after rain when abom appears. Its a well known fact.
Lets assume best case scenario. No metagaming, or the likes, just pred players observing the round for fun. Abom appears, suddently a big influx of predators join the hunt. Similarly was (atleast in the past) with gear/body being brought to Almayer. Is that something 100% totally kosher and fine? No issue found in this behaviour? Couldn’t join the hunt to do regular RP and small scale hunt, but when valid appears in the round and they are off their WL leash, LESSS GOOOO!
This is a PvP team deathmatch game with RP elements, not roleplaying game with PvP team deathmatch elements.
Why do you break character and just stand around doing nothing among xenos when canonically thy should engage you on sight (go and watch first AvP movie, do you behave like those predators)? Why do you break character and teleport to your ship when preds don’t have such tech? Why do you break character and do multiple things that predators would not do?
Because of gameplay/mechanical/code/whitelist restrictions. But they suddently can’t apply to this particular case for some reason. Why greeno abom can’t be just excluded from being dishonorable prey? Why greeno abom can’t be just disabled?
How is that answer to:
Xenos put some effort to infect and burst a predator, so multiple predators are allowed to “join the hunt” just to kill resulting predator xenomorph by any means necessary, because aboms are encouraged by mechanical means to fight humans, as they grow in power by huge margin with kills?
Hi!
On private channels? Bet my ass there are.
This would be heavily frowned upon and no one active in the WL now would try it. Cringe as fuck and this is a strawman!
Couldn’t join the hunt to do regular RP and small scale hunt
RP’ing with other predators is the most rewarding part of this WL, not killing joey researcher for deciding that maybe this third and final time they make an abom they wont get assailed by the freaky alien hunters that did twice before.
you’re complaining that predators cant RP when researchers aren’t. Grow up.
This is a PvP team deathmatch game with RP elements
Maybe for you LOL, but that is not something you can force on a roleplaying whitelist for us to forego our RP.
Why do you break character and teleport to your ship when preds don’t have such tech?
Predators can teleport in the comics, moot point.
How is that answer to:
Because abominations are meant to fight humans to gain lethality, encouraging them to do so mechanically. Meaning this lucky fellow can and probably will fight an abom if one is smart enough to do so!
I’ll just say what I always thought about abominations,
They aren’t worth it. For both marines and xenomorphs.
9/10 the sole existence of the abomination leads to multiple deaths for xenomorphs commonly, as they get ordered by the queen to protect the abomination, and since they’re bound to a hivemind led by the queen, xenomorphs thus die protecting it, either from cross-fire or predators actually attacking the protecting xenomorphs to expose the abomination.
Sure, it will result in a short dopamine spike and excitement “Yooo we captured a headhunter!” But shortly after the abomination evolves, the chaos will start, hive starts moving with the abomination in effort to protect it, but predators will just pick them all off one by one to get to the predalien, similar to what happened on the LV-522 Chance’s Claim round.
My advise? Just slash to kill, don’t capture them, it’ll just lead to the demise of the hive/marines, depending who gets their hands on an abomb first
Fairly certain this would be an insta DWL for anyone caught.
Im not council so i cant really say (although extremely likely), but even if they weren’t they’d for sure be punished for metacommunication!
but why should it be like this, why is the best way to deal with predators is to never interact with them, why is the punishment for trying to use game mechanics so severe
predators exist in a weird vacuum bubble that has no precedence with other wl roles in the game, and when that bubble is popped in a specific way suddenly youre getting hit with evil turbo destroyer guns by people often joining just to hit you with these guns
they just feel very detached from the game for seemingly no reason, and any attempt to tie them in beyond “wowie lodge boxing match with naked deltards” is… non existant basically because youre gonna get turbo blasted, as i mentioned before
Theres no evidence for anyone doing this, no precedent you can bring up. You’re fighting a point you literally have zero evidence for and zero people arguing that it happens. Its already a rulebreak so what more do you want from the whitelist 
And you’re angry we’re doing what reasonably the predators would do, LOL
I really cant take you seriously cabal, i pointed out evidence against your argument.
Different circumstances. AVP1 had predators who were locked in a crypt there specifically to fight the xenos. AVP2 had an entire ship fight against the abom (funny how you dont bring that up by the way). Predators can and will ignore things they dont consider a worthy fight, im sorry i ignore young warrior XX 
+ you’re saying predators do not attack everything on sight, but neither do the xenos?
you dont LOL. At most you have a couple (read TWO at most) joining because they realise theres an abom and they remember they have a WL. They’ll go RP after the most pressing matter is dealt with.
I see it. I just don’t think the discussion is necessary, nor is the change going to happen or will increase roleplay/player enjoyment.
The Synth WL is having discussions and changes because there is a monumental dissatisfaction from Players, Whitelist Councils and Heads, Staff, Management, Maintainers, Server Heads. This discussion isn’t comparable nor is it as pressing to discuss about, because I went back and read this thread. I watched exactly what I said, be 90% correct.
Pred Cope, Chud Pred, and the other 75% are telling you something similar to me and whitelist official on here is saying that this is unnecessary and pointless. I don’t need to read these threads.
These threads get made every year, and go the exact same way everytime. It is not new, unique or thought provoking everytime I see this thread or one like it pop up.
I have a honest suggestion. Please make your own post. The progenitor of this post was flawed to say the least. I think you have some good ideas that are worthy of discussion.
tldr of this whole thread; defend an abomination and you get treated like an abomination
shrimple as
Several ideas will be discussed to root out the problems, if there any.
One of the main ones is removing the announcement, or making it so there’s a grace period where the pred is infected and others cant join until it bursts evolves and gets a bit of time.
I don’t see a problem with predators killing aboms, and anyone defending it thus it will stay.
The whole “joining when pred gets infected” thing has always been on the discussion table and nothing has come from it, I intend to either get a clarification that either allows it, disallows it or modifies it.
DM me on discord if you have any suggestions or more problems.