Isn’t most of the Aliens universe core fantasy: W-Y Scientists fucking with shit they shouldn’t be fucking with? So much more soul with them as W-Y. Plus it gives the CL someone to chum around with.
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Hold up, I am summoning Jean to this thread. Please stand by. @SubjectD9341, your input is needed.
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Yeah, this would be great. Make Research civvies again!
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Making research civvies (and potentially medical too who knows) is perfectly fine in my book. More civilians can bring up interesting conflicts between them and the military in RP. Now if they should be aligned with WY or another company or perhaps dependent, I am not exactly sure. Research and CL/WY entering into conflict is also an interesting avenue.
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and like two PMC guards, it’ll bring in nerds of all RP
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i agree as the CL basically has everyone and their mother gunning for them on the ship from most Marines to the MPs and the Command staff having some friends would be nice
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When are we gonna get out of our hammocks and actually implement this?
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This would be easy to code though? You do not need to change any spawn locations and like add new code.
You just got to change some naming schemes to be Civ/Employed, and maybe some rulings.
Making a PR in around 6 hours from now, then. But we all know it won’t be accepted.
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Why not make it like doctor where you can flip between being a surgeon or a doctor except it’s for military or W-Y?
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The only reason Jean (I’ve nothing against him, he’s one of the better researchers and one of the only I will trust to handle greenos) and others have pushed for civilian research and medical departments to be added is that it would create more interesting RP because they wouldn’t be “yes men” anymore, quoting Jean here. What those people want is not to be beholden to the Marine chain of command and while I do agree that civilians researchers and physicians could add some good RP, what they actually want in the end is to do their own thing regardless of what Marine command (the half dozen guys in CIC that actually try to make the round more fun for more than half the server’s playerbase, under the overwatch of COs) has to say about it. Because researchers hate nothing more than their gimmick being shut down even if it’s because Marines don’t need Greenos to win.
I’m totally for having civilian departments back as it makes sense to have qualified specialists being recruited from the outside, especially, if they’re real good. And the more different factions you have in game, the more diverse the interactions are gonna be. But I don’t want medical and research to be civilian for the same reasons as Jean and the others. I’m obviously biaised, but when I deny greenos, I think about the whole round, not my gimmick, and letting research be civilians, and later on have guards, which is what those people want in the end, is not gonna benefit the Marines.
Tldr; They want research to be civilians so they can do their own thing regardless of how rounds go. I’m obviously biaised, I’m part of the whitelist that command Marines and so I don’t agree any department should be indepent from the trusted players chosen to direct round flow on the behalf of the Marines.
EDIT2: Corrected some spelling mistakes but you guys should probably get management approval for this (even if through maintainers) because having a third faction back on-board is gonna alter the round balance significantly, especially if you wanna pursue this further.
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(Got something against jean cause he once gassed and locked me into containment)
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These changes were quite easy to do, didn’t need to change much. Already made the PR, so either it gets denied on the Git or approved on the Git.
Also they are the same faction as the CL, Weyland-Yutani. So even then it’s at best two factions on-board.
I sadly can’t speak about if they want power for themselves just to cuck you (CIC) but it seems like quite a stretch to suggest they want it JUST for that. There are alot of people who play CIC or don’t play Research and would like to see it back to being civilian, and I doubt they want Research being powerhungry for being “yes men” as you stated.
I feel there are alot more positives than negatives, because even if they “go and do their own thing regardless of what the trusted players chose”, you have MPs, you have Marines and you certainly have access to Research to shut them down to show them who really rules the ship around here, which is certainly not them.
It would mean MPs have a place to watch because civilian researchers would likely infect shipside nonstop.
Anecdotally I do recall on some of my XO rounds how the research department would use every ambiguity possible to squirm and disobey command orders as much as possible.
One example is the CO giving me, the XO, broad authority over the operation and shipside, but that the CO made one off-the cuff statement about research being able to research a single Greeno. This then resulted in the researchers taking that statement and causing a shit ton of chaos shipside by growing its own hive and then claiming the greenos were not listening to orders. Even after I order the research shut down, and the CO agrees, I end up wasting half my round having to chase after the Researchers since they refused to listen and kept taking samples I ordered be removed, constantly using the CO’s earlier remark to claim they have broad authority to do whatever they want.
Not to mention then the CL came and further muddied the waters with everything.
Did not help someone rewarded the Researchers by giving them a mini-event, but I digress.
Also, god forbid the Goons arrive and the Researcher and CL try to strongarm them into becoming their private guards.
Maybe it’d be a RP boon, but I feel this will just cause more annoyance.
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I love a lil LRP tomfoolery and I can’t deny it, but I’ve had very few rounds playing command and in one of my successes as XO on of the researchers said “I AM BECOMING SOMETHING GREATER, I HAVE INFECTED MYSELF TO BECOME A XENOMORPH” and so I immediately detained him and removed it and he went to LOOC saying “sweaty CIC gamer wont let anyone do anything fun” and im like bruh. Found him in research and when I told him he was going to medical to get that removed he drew so I crit him get him treated for his stupidity and he just malded in LOOC then ghosted. So it might be a good idea if you wanna weed out all of THOSE researchers.
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I could maybe understand using DNA disintegration to actually turn yourself into a xenomorph, but getting yourself hugged to “become a Xeno” is just plain LRP or meta gaming, and should be ahelped stat.
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TLDR;
I, as a whitelisted individual, should always have final say in how and what RP occurs.
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