Squirrel7O - Commanding Officer Application

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Commanding Officer Application - Squirrel7O

What is your BYOND key?

Squirrel7O

What is your Discord ID?

squirreloo

What is your timezone in UTC?

UTC-3

Player Name You Use Most?

Ava ‘Squirrel’ Biery

Ban Appeals, Whitelist and Staff Applications:

Mentor Application - Squirrel7O - Staff Applications / Mentor Applications - CM-SS13 - Forums Mentor app, waiting. (edit here, linked a repply not the actual page)

Have you been banned in the last 3 months?

No

If so, why?

N/A

Command Knowledge:

How familiar are you with command positions?

First non-CIC roles: I know how to run any department on the ship as the head of that area, with or without help from others, this can be req, medical, engineering, intel etc etc.
For CIC roles I have over time gained a lot of confidence on my ability to command empty or full CIC, and think that I have a good grasp of groundside concepts like flanks or retreats. Also, I feel I have a good amount of experience commanding under different circumstances, this is because I have commanded WO multiple times (Even though it is not longer played as much) and I have XO’d HvH, once planning and executing the operation myself (Bless the CO I got that round that dedicated themselves to req) and once collaborating with a CO.

Hours in XO:

92.4

Hours in SL:

20.3

Character Information:

Why did your character decide to become the CO of a ship?

Ava was born into a important family in one of the more civilized colonies, causing her to get attain certain manners close to those of a minor nobility, though this later on never prevented her from yelling at her marines. Avas military interest peaked when a standard supplying run went to her colony and the ships Major dinned with her family, just seeing them, head high, watching their marines unload supplies was enough to make her aspire to be one some day.

The rest of her young days were dedicated to reading books on great generals and legendary battles. Once she was old enough thanks to her families position she was able to get transport to earth, and go to the Officers Candidate School.

How did your character attain the position of CO?

Though Ava was able to move up the ranks rather quickly thanks to her quick thinking and initiative, she was always known by her superiors as a risk taker, and although she had the characteristics of a good commander, because of this they didn’t favor her. Eventually thanks to the occurrences on system PFOL-2171-COL (Check story), High Command was left with little other choice since there was no other good candidate to replace Major Backlund and continue operations.

Provide a short story of your CO.

Command Actions:

When do you believe it’s appropriate to pardon a prisoner?

I personally believe that pardons while a useful tool, should be very rare to use, this is because if someone committed a crime and don’t have enough justification to appeal it then I have no guarantee that they won’t just recommit and get me in the brig too.

I do think there are some exceptional cases, examples of those will be given in the examples area.

Give some examples of when you would or would not use pardon.

I WOULD give a pardon to a doctor if they are the only personnel on the ship that can perform surgery and their crime is not capital. Rather simple reason, if my only doctor is stuck in the brig and I have hugged marines coming up its either risking it or getting larva on the ship and loosing marines, though I will say that in nearly any other situation I would NOT pardon this since doctors don’t really have many good reasons to commit crimes.

If a medic is shipside and need something from the medical storage area to urgently go groundside, asks doctors to open the door but nobody does, so they break the window to take it and gets charged with DGTP and trespassing I would FIRST ask the doctors if they didn’t open because they didn’t bother or because they didn’t want him to get in. If it is because they didn’t bother I would pardon the medic, as they had a good reason and were ignored. If it is the second case I would not pardon them as I feel like in this case they are more likely to reoffend.

I would NOT pardon a specialist that stole the CLs briefcase. It is just a unnecessary crime and even though the specialist can be considered a important role for the operation even IC, Ava would not risk her career for such a dumb thing.

I would NOT pardon crimes like hooliganism or insubordination. I can think of some really odd exceptions but hooliganism is just too unnecessary of a crime to commit and then get a pardon for and insubordination: if they are not listening to me or command, why would I pardon them if its probably me or someone in CIC who asked for their arrest anyways?

I would NOT pardon a prisoner who committed a capital crime. I just can’t…

When do you believe it’s appropriate to use a Battlefield Execution?

I think the main reasons that BEs should be used are: LRP (Insanity), trying to overthrow command (there is a fine line between disagreeing and overthrowing) and being a immediate danger to the ship or to the marines.

In most of these cases I would first give a warning, I am not a big fan of just silent BEs. An exception to this would be an immediate danger to the ship such as a active shooter because by then they don’t deserve a warning.

Give some examples of when you would or would not use Battlefield Execution.

I WOULD BE a marine who is saying things like: “Don’t listen to command, they don’t know what they are talking about”. This is just directly undermining my authority and can’t be tolerated, I would still give them a warning before going for the BE but nearly any answer that isn’t “ok sorry I will stop” or something similar will get them BE’d.

I would NOT BE a marine that says something like: “Command, I don’t think that what you are saying is correct I won’t follow those orders”. While not following my orders, they aren’t trying to encourage other marines not to, and it is a somewhat respectful way to communicate it, first I would hear them out (Ava cares about her marines) and then maybe order their arrest if they continue.

I WOULD BE a staff officer who “hijacks” briefing and starts giving conflicting orders to mine, and when told to stop continued if there are no MP around. Rather self explanatory, I saw this once happen to a newish XO and it seemed like a good example. I would say this is a very valid BE in my books even if MP are around, but unless needed to regain control/authority over the marines I rather do a arrest over a BE especially for something so petty.

I would NOT BE a marine that is already under custody of MP. Besides being very unethical it is simply not allowed by CoC.

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BE and pardon answers are not very good. I’ve never seen you before as XO or SL despite only being 3 hours behind you, what times do you play?

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Sorry you didn’t like my answers very much, could you please elaborate to see if I can explain myself?
I have been a bit busy in the last week but I will be much more active in the following one, I generaly play around 23:00 UTC.

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I’m on mobile so my response is probably going to be so poorly organized but:

This is a ridiculous BE because 1/3 of your marine force is going to be moaning about you and CIC if you’re losing. Unless it’s a substantial threat like an SL who’s been doing a lot of the groundside leading, this BE is unneeded.

This is not a substantially different example than the previous one, why include it? The purpose of the examples are to show you know what to BE and what not to.

Tell me how these are substantially different examples.

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Yeah, if some random PFC were yelling these things over comms I would not just go out of my way and bee line to them for a BE, that would be very unreasonable. But if they were directly approaching me saying this, for example groundside or after a operation, I see it as a attempt at getting the other marines around them to go against me, especially If there are no MPs around to give some lesser punishment, it mostly boils down to: I can’t leave them running around saying these things. At the end I guess it is my bad for leaving it as too general of a example.

I was mostly trying to show what I think is the difference between, someone being insubordinate and someone being a threat to my authority.

-The first one is a example of a pardon I would not normally give out, but because of the extreme situation I would still give.
-The second one is a case where a medic can’t appeal through marine law since they are guilty, but since they tried to avoid the crime and had a good justification to do it they shouldn’t be punished.
-The third was showing how I would not pardon crimes that had no reason to be done, even if it is a important role like a spec.
I agree they seem similar (at least the two from the doctor and the medic) but I think it shows different aspects of how I would or would not pardon.

Hope this clears things up a bit.

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Alright, dropping my bombshell of a application review here for you. Prepare.

Please post your Marine Playtimes so I can somewhat verify this.

as opposed to… uncivilized colonies?

This is a weird parallel to draw considering they were born and raised in the UA, no? Acting posh and refined like nobles isn’t exactly something american upper class is known for. Seems like a misplaced stigma/stereotype.

I helped you with proofreading your story, so most of my thoughts about it I already informed you about. I will, however, reiterate the continuous errors with regards to punctuation and capitalization, which to me always hints at a lack of real effort and drive. Somebody who really wants to get this Whitelist would have the minute or two to run their story through a basic grammar checker website/app (plenty exist), and even after I told you this BEFORE you applied, there still are such errors in this story, indicating that you didn’t actually read over this story at all after I told you.

Beyond that- it’s an ok story. Average, I would say. It’s nothing spectacular, it’s not bad either. It falls rather flat at properly giving me a painted picture of who Ava is as a person and character since you focus so much on the epic battle and action, but other than that it’s ok. Passable, in any case, if not for the many mistakes in it.

…Huh?

Pardons exist for cases where the prisoner is GUILTY of their charges. In fact, if an appeal is in process or hasn’t started yet, then a pardon automatically acts as a guilty verdict of those charges - declaring that the prisoner did, in fact, commit their charged crimes- hence the pardon of them.

If a prisoner ‘had enough justification to appeal their charges’ then they wouldn’t need a pardon to begin with, making your whole point here obsolete and pointless? This already gives me a very bad feel about your understanding of what a pardon even is, and how they are to be used.

Overall agreeable, though…

While this is generally true, it’s also possible one commits a crime without malicious intent, or by accident even. A Pardon isn’t JUST about the prisoner’s role and charges, but also whether or not they are repentent and apologetic about their acts. Somebody who is acting like a pretentious jerk won’t get a pardon because they are likely to reoffend.

How does it make the Medic more likely to reoffend if the Doctors ignored him or not?

It’s a dumb and unnecessary crime, so generally I would agree.

Hooliganism can be various things. Some MPs stretch it and might arrest a Marine for something as simple as throwing a few chairs around while waiting for briefing. Always listen to the actual tale to be told, in this case. Insub I agree with though, screw that.

You have just executed 50% of the Marine Force, congratulations. Executions will continue until morale improves.

Jokes aside, don’t do this. Marines ALWAYS criticise and bad-mouth command. It doesn’t even matter what you do or don’t do. The point is that you have to pick and choose when casual shitflinging starts to become more… serious. Don’t go for the goofy goober PFCs, but maybe do go for the FTL or SL shouting that stuff. Cut out the problem at its root, so to speak.

That still doesn’t mean I would immediately resort to a BE with this, however. Open disrespect IN MY PRESENCE is a different story, of course. Doing so over comms, during a heated operation, is more so par for the course and tolerable. BEing someone in that case might just cause more harm than good.

This I dont get. Your previous example was quite literally “yes, shoot them ALL if they disrespect me! BE EVERYONE WHO DOESN’T LOVE COMMAND”

Yet you draw this arbitrary line here where suddenly you wouldn’t BE someone when they don’t follow orders? Obviously these ARE different cases, but the line is pretty thin and, given your tone with the last example, I’m very surprised why and how you’re suddenly vouching for a cool head with this. It doesn’t correlate and add up in my mind.

Yeah, kill that guy.

Yuh

Summary:

  • I need your full playtimes posted, for reference and curiosity if nothing else
  • You need to continue playing BOTH XO and SL while this is up, and lots of it.
  • Your story was ok, but veering more so towards lack of effort due to your lack of personal proofreading
  • I remain unconvinced of your ability to accurately judge when to issue Pardons or BEs, and with Pardons, whether you accurately know what a Pardon even is in conjecture with an Appeal.

Overall mediocre and I remain unconvinced of your application as of right now. Hence why I have some questions below.

QUESTIONS:

  • How would you rate your average RP interactivity in-game? Would you say you RP more or less in command roles compared to squad roles?

  • Would you say you are proactive about starting RP, or that you usually RP moreso when spoken to, rather than being the initiator?

  • Explain to me two possible use cases for a Discretionary Arrest.

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Here they are.

I have always had problems with punctuation especially in English, regarding capitalization, the only reoccurring mistake I noticed were the ranks, and I actually looked this up later to see when I had to capitalize or not. I read the story many times before and after the suggestions looking for mistakes and making sure it was understandable, I am not very sure how to prove this but I would like to assure I did.

The point I was trying to make is that no mater the situation or what the prisoner says, pardons do come with a risk, although most times noticeable, I feel like any marine could try to make a compelling case to see if they can later reoffend and get the CO in the brig for ‘funsies’, therefore they should be used very little. I understand that pardons are only for prisoners that are guilty, and that if one is innocent they should appeal since I did read other apps and noticed it was a reoccurring mistake.

If no doctor wanted to simply open the door so they can go in, take something, and leave, then I am more inclined to thinking that they had a reason for this and that the medic decided to ignore or was being unreasonable generally lowering my trust in them, though more specifics would be needed.

Yes, as I said before I admit that I left the example too general and wouldn’t go on a BE hunt just because some PFC is yelling things on the radio. Most times if they say things like this (which strangely hasn’t happened to me in a while) I just ignore them, especially if it is during round start since then it is just nonsense, though it has happened.

I see the first one as a marine trying to get people against me, but this one as just someone not following orders, and not necessarily disrespecting me though I see why it could be taken that way, if I were to BE here then I would really need to BE a lot of marines which I would not do.

I think my RP is good, like a high MRP if I am just being casual about it. I have been taking a few steps to be able to better my RP as a character, so Ava is actually someone and not some default character. For example I read a little on battle tactics, mostly to be able to use the vocabulary since as I said before Ava is supposed to be knowledgeable in this area. When it comes to the whole manners thing, a good example of this is that when I leave a room where someone of higher rank than me is or someone I generally need to be respectful to, I do a “*does a small bow” or when eating anything I do the very rare thing of actually asking for silverware.
As for the second part of your question I will admit that I do try harder to RP when in a more important position but will never turn down a opportunity to do so even if I am just some PFC.

If I see a clear chance to start some RP and I am not too busy with my current job I will try to initiate some (Though it sadly happens many times that the other person just doesn’t catch on). But many of these opportunities arise from someone starting conversation with me so I will say that I am at a mid point.

  1. A staff officer repeatedly contradicts my orders causing disorganization groundside. It is not exactly a crime as far a ML goes (maybe NoD) but it is not something I can have repeatedly happen, I would probably DA them for 15-20 minutes.

  2. Someone makes a serious verbal threat against me or other marines but not massive enough to be sedition (serious or not would need to be judged case by case). Since it is not massive enough to be sedition it wouldn’t really be a crime, but a serious threat non the less, depending on what the threat is I could imagine 10-15 minutes just so they think about what they said.

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Any reason why Squad Leader is so noticeably behind the other leadership roles such as SO and XO? Do you not enjoy field command of any sort? Are you not comfortable with it?

Makes sense. Point taken.

A Marine disobeying orders, especially a direct order, is inevitably tarnishing your ability to command. If you don’t take decisive action against them (BE or Arrest, preferrably the latter) then you are sending Marines the signal that you don’t actually care whether they listen to you or not.

This is YOUR ship, YOUR Operation, YOUR Company of Marines. YOU are the highest authority around. If YOU show that people can get away with disobeying you then there isn’t any authority around that supercedes you to make it right again.

Mmmhm. I must admit I haven’t had the personal opportunity to RP/chat with you much. If people reading this app have had positive or negative experiences regarding RP with you, then please comment!

I have been told by whitelistees that they have repeatedly encountered an issue with you tunnel visioning HARD during operations, to a point where you are completely engrossed by Overwatch and the Console(s) and don’t notice the CO or others talking to you. Apparently people have had to physically drag you away from the console to get you to snap back to reality.

This, obviously, does not speak in your favour whilst saying that you try to RP more in Command roles.

…This is textbook sedition. What do you mean “this is not exactly a crime”? You have an Officer that is directly countermanding you and is trying to subvert your authority. Arrest and Permabrig for this alone - no DA needed. Also 20 minutes for trying to basically sabotage command is CRAZY, holy damn.

Wrong answer.

This is SUPER vague because you seemingly refused to actually… elaborate on what the situation is? All I know is “somebody said something, and it’s pretty bad… but it’s not bad, actually” like… huh?

I don’t know what you were thinking of but I’d probably still stamp this kinda person off as Attempted Sedition and brig them anyway, since the realistic attempt or intent of committing a crime can carry with it the same brig sentence as if you actually committed it. If someone was CLEARLY spouting crap on comms that was EVIDENTLY intended to slander you and subvert your authority, then you just… brig them for Sedition, or intended Sedition. You don’t need a DA for that (again) because it’s already a Capital charge.

And if you don’t wanna go this route - again, no idea because you left this HORRENDOUSLY vague - then 15 minutes for this seems super sketchy (…again…)

If someone was seemingly intent on threatening you/command to a point where you are thinking about Sedition, then I’d just perma them. IF you aren’t using “Intent” and Sedition as the charge, then use a DA to permabrig them instead, with more or less the same reasoning. This guy doesn’t sound like anyone I want running free.

Wrong answer either way. So far, sadly, I’m not convinced.

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Hi, sorry for the delay, I was going to answer yesterday but some guy decided to drink and drive their way into a power pole so my power went out, don’t drink and drive kids. Anyhow:

No particular reason really, I just never went through a SL phase. I did though pass through a deploying as a XO phase. The first round I did that I felt very out of place, since I didn’t just want to SL+ and much less PFC+, but after a while I did get the hang of it and managed to even save some ops that I heavily feel we would have lost if I hadn’t gone down when I did. Now I think that when commanding groundside any commander has more tools to be able to manage marines better, at the cost of safety that is.

While true, I see this happening more if a SL/aSL were to be ignoring me, then what I would do is first: set a new aSL that will actually listen to me, and then mark the previous aSL for insub (things that I have done before), unless the SL is being insubordinate and (directly) disrespectful to me I would not yet consider something as drastic as a BE.

I do admit I tunnel vision into the operation, but not this hard, I almost always leave the chat box free of consoles and stuff so although I can’t see the full screen around me, I can see people speaking to me. Maybe I delay answers, but don’t straight up ignore people. In fact one of the reasons I like the CO WL is because they get to do other things that are not just looking at the tacmap and deciding what is best (which tbh is what you do as the XO 90% of the time), when I first started XOing I liked going to other parts of the ship to try to solve problems, but quickly noticed that leaving for more than 4-5 minutes results in PFCs, SLs, SOs etc yelling at me for leaving CIC even if I announced I needed to resolve something shipside.

Finally I am sorry to anyone who has had this experience with me, if it has happened recently (because honestly I don’t remember someone needing to drag me away) I will do my best for it not to happen again.

I was thinking about it more like a incompetent staff officer, so not exactly going against orders to overthrow me, but just because they are incompetent. The reason as for 20 minutes is to first do damage control groundside and get things straight. Second is to have a little chat with the SO in the brig and see what is going on and if it was really just incompetency.

While not a excuse for giving such a bad answer, I couldn’t think of another clear case where to use a DA and it was 1AM and I needed to go to sleep so I didn’t have much time to think of one either.

I know it is not as valuable as giving it on the original answer I would like to comment a little on what I think of DAs and then give a alternative example I actually had some time to think about.

DAs: How I see it there are two main ways of applying one. 1: someone did something technically not arrestable but still bad so you decide to arrest them. And 2: Someone is arrested for something but because of the context of what they did, the time they are doing is not enough punishment so you can upgrade it (most notably to perma brig).

The first case is a bit hard to find because if someone is doing something I don’t want them to do, I will tell them to stop, and if they continue I can already arrest them for insubordination negating the need for a DA, unless it turns into a case 2 sort of thing, and here is where I came up with a better example:

A comtech is reordering cades in a clearly bad way around FOB. When told not to place them how they did, and showed why by either their SL or command (such to make sure they aren’t just a confused new player) they continued anyways and got arrested for insubordination, once released they went back to FOB and started doing the exact same thing all over again and got arrested again.

Here they are clearly just making the situation worse in every way and ignoring the people that tell them to stop. They already seem very unreasonable since they have ignored command and their SL twice, even after getting told why what they are doing is wrong. If they get released at the wrong moment and something like a siege comes, I just can’t trust having them groundside and possibly causing a breach, therefore I would perma DA them in the brig.

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I had you as an XO few times and I can tell when someone is ready to be a CO or not, and you are in the camp of ready to be CO, you have my +1.

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Wicked low SL hours as far as Im concerned. Trust Misti for the finer points of your app, but for me I always wanna see more of how people lead in the field, that time, game-sense, and recognition of who is and is not reliable in the marine force is extremely important. Apps only been up for less than a week, so not long I know, but wanna encourage you to play as much of XO and SL especially as you can in the coming days.

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Hello, thanks for the advice, It is all very helpful to me.

I have been rolling high XO and med SL on the rounds I have been playing, but I think I will take your advice and just go high SL on some since I have lower hours there.

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I like Ava, they competent, always had good interactions with this character. They keep their eyes on the op and act like an officer.
+1

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I’ve seen you play before and generally I was not pleased with your RP, and I am a big stickler with story and character. If you want lead or fight, we have roles for that. CO is to be a HRP role meant for leading essentially the entire Operation in Character, and this one does not speak to me in game. As an example, you say Ava doesn’t yell, but every single one of the announcements for the entire operation was in all caps with no punctuation. I would love it if Ava was a pomp classist, but I fail to see that ICly. It would even mesh well with the actual Noble CO who is themselves humble, while Ava would make a good counter as a non-noble with their nose up cause she was raised upper-middleclass.

After watching your performance in a round, I am going to say re-apply. You - generally - did not make important tactical while making a few rookie gaffs that still need to be ironed out before taking on the WL.
You:

  • left CIC to handle an appeal to an SO who was making Ship Announcements instead of Command Announcements. Leaving an under-effective CIC behind is a form of not using your role. There is a reason we treat If you are die as XO/CO leaving an incompetent CIC behind as a big bad.
  • you did not direct marines to retake the unprotected relay despite knowing Queen was at LZ2, continuing the groundside deafness that gripped the operation since I woke at 00:35. Just generally yelled about clearing weeds.
  • I spawned as Delta SL and asked for a groundside aSL to be made while I prepped and deployed. 5 times over multiple radio channels. It was not till I physically was slapping the SSD SO’s face in CIC that it was changed.
  • Your callouts need to be more specific when it comes to where people should be. I saw a bunch of Marines die pushing South caves from garage rather than Tcomms, giving over caps to queen who was at tcomms.
  • You, throughout the Entire operation, referrred to the LtCol as Major.
  • You responded to someone over the phone with an IC *nod emote.

This experience, along with the poor BE/Pardon answers, I would say just come back later. If you really want it, you should commit to the character as best you can while also getting better at callouts and camera watching. This is the line to toe. I don’t really care about the lack of SL hours personally, but it is good to know the feel of combat and how to deal with certain environments/enemies.

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Hi, thanks for the feedback on my character, I obviously want to RP it well so it is appreciated even if negative. Though, before commenting on the round I want to point out that I think you misread a little something.

“Never prevented” specifically added in because I know I yell a lot over announcements

Now moving on to that round:

I am not sure what you wanted me to do tactically here. For context to anyone who was not there, the round was on Solaris, LZ1 FOB, with comms north of Marshals and basically a 2.5 hour siege, but we did break out and pushed to comms at one or two points.

Any push that should have been ordered was either already happening or already ordered, and doing a flank, at least in my opinion, was not viable, since it would have needed to be through the northern caves passage and it would have been completely destroyed by the two boilers that you actually told me about over the phone.

I do want to point out that when the queen left to LZ2 to prepare some surprise attack (I can only guess it was for this) I did eventually call the CO over the phone and tell them that we should probably rally at hospital and prepare a push, they accepted and announced to rally there, other than this the rest of the round was telling marines where the queen was attacking the FOB from so we can defend.

While generally I would let SOs handle appeals since, as you said, I can’t leave a incompetent CIC behind. It was the guy who OT naded FOB, so I mostly wanted to go, share a few words, then be like “let him rot in his cell” and leave, he did cryo before I was able to get there so I was only ever gone for 4-5ish minutes.

If I remember correctly I announced something like “Queen is at LZ2 take this chance to solidify FOB and comms. Clear the weeds around the area” I just saw it as a chance to solidify and repair after a long FOB siege. Maybe in retrospect I should have emphasized more on the comms part but, again, if I remember correctly, they were operational. Once some time passed, I called the CO as I said before, but this push was ruined because marines insisted on going to general store and 1v20ing the entire hive even after I told them not to.

I understand that being the highest ranking officer in the CIC (CO was groundside) I should have stepped in earlier (I did eventually set a aSL and was also the one who set you back to SL) but this feels more like criticism to the SO there, you even managed to steal their ID to change your access, which I prevented.

I did specifically tell them to stop pushing SW FOB caves.

At least over comms I corrected myself when I noticed but generally true and something I will be more careful with.

No? The CL was with me in the CIC for most of the round (talking to them was probably one of the best parts of the round, at least for me) I many times nodded to them because the conversation was interesting and I wanted to continue it, but didn’t want to confuse the person with who I was on the phone or neglect the operation.

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I may not hold a CO whitelist but from reading your BE answer I can’t in good faith believe that you understand what a BE is -1 from me

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This also startles me. I would rather not have a CO running around BEing people for Minor amounts of Insubordination. Lets refrain from the days of old where COs could OB despite the circumstances… I know Ava is a good XO with good character but lets not over step with the Permanently removing people from the round without good reason. People are here to have fun lets not ruin it for them unless their ruining everyone elses fun.

-1.

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From what the community and COs have said regarding your recent answers, I’m afraid the CO Council doesn’t feel confident in your ability to hold up to whitelist standards. While we noticed and do like your RP and CIC command ability, your answers to several questions on the application and this thread, most of which were brought up earlier, leave much to be desired.

I would strongly recommend reading up on the feedback given to you, as the Council agrees with many points made concerning your answers, particularly those related to CO-exclusive permissions such as BEs and pardons. I’d recommend reading up on the Code of Conduct and thinking about when to use such abilities in such situations. Remember to think of it sensibly and as an ultimate option; both BEs and pardons are risky moves that shouldn’t be attempted if plenty of other options are available, like simple arrests or even the CO’s new DA (discretionary arrest) ability.

In turn, we’ve decided to deny your application. We like your leadership skills, but you have to work on your app and the answers to it. You can reapply in 30 days on April 18, 2024.

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Added co:denied and removed co:waiting