what do you HATE about CM13? šŸ 

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its time to spread hatred and malice mua ha h

Drop ur hot takes, cold takes, HORRIBLE takes, etc about the videogame

if this thread beats what do you think is really cool and awesome in CM13? šŸ‡ in reply count then evil has wonā€¦

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what do you think is really cool and awesome in CM13? šŸ‡
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  • I think specialists should get removed from the game
  • command should get buffed heavily
  • queen should get nerfed into a regular caste
  • surgery should be removed from the game, or make it so you can automate it entirely and just AFK
  • barricade doors and barbed wire should get removed or only usable for core FOB defense - barbed and entirely enclosed barricades ruin the game where fighting occurs and should only limit backliners / early rushes from accessing newbie bravo players and the dropship
  • shivas snowball should be removed from rotation or reverted to topleft + bottomright LZs

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people who run away from their squad to roam the backline alone and die/get captured by a lurker within 10 minutes

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I hate neverplayers who havent touched the game in years making forum threads it infuriates me I want to smother them with a labubu in their sleep

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Hot takes: I hate @BasilHerb and @birb the same way.

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what the heck!!!
hot take 1: SG should get removed from the game!!
hot take 2: merge labubu gun PR so i can ff basil and ingwe

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I hate uhh, the lack of cats. hello devs, add more cats please.

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The players (Iā€™m evil)
Playing the game (Iā€™m staff (and evil))

CAS existing
OT existing
Research existing

Cornstarch sleeper agents
The maintenance ghouls that got Vendela

Ground vehicles
Not being able to pointlessly argue with people for 3 hrs in dchat because theyā€™re too nice or donā€™t talk (Highlight of the CM round)

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For years I asked for combat powerloaders, got said ā€œNO, we are not turning into Gungdamsā€ only to roll back now with actual non-lore friendly mechs in the code and sometimes used in events.

Grinds my gears.

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Usually, itā€™s just people speaking with absolute certainty while being completely ignorant about a topic. A difference in opinion is fine, but conflating issues without being able to agree on or address the core reasons they may exist is so silly to me. I try to make sure I say that I didnā€™t know something or that I learned something (often relearning something) because I have fumbled, and I will absolutely do it again in the future. I usually play ComTech or OrdinanceTech, and I have 250 hours or more on each, and I still ask the other OT mains questions, and Iā€™ll be in gameplay help on the Discord. Be it mechanics, strategy, or a new additions to the game, getting additional perspectives is really insightful. Just the other day, I rolled SL because I needed the hours for SO, and it was the first time I had to cut the ID lock off of an APC. Never once had to do that shit as a Tech, it was stressful as hell. To address the thing I hate in CM at the moment (that arenā€™t bully MPs lol), Iā€™ve memeā€™d it a little in after-round chats, and its CIC. In-game and out of game, those mfs canā€™t accept a loss. They canā€™t accept that Xeno can play well and win, and they look for fault with their own marines, no matter how insignificant, to cope. Itā€™s absolutely not every CiC player, and I had a good time up there the other day when I did get my SO unlocked (very chill role, I recommend. Just wish I had the RP muscles that the entire room seemed to have on display that round), but god damn if it doesnā€™t come off as contempt. Most announcements are Queen, ,abcd Charge, OB, fallback, or other general info an SL could relay to their squad. Iā€™m so glad that shit got encrypted, or it wouldā€™ve been the thing I hated most, with those also leaning passive-aggressive, redundant, and overused. Just play SL if you want to lead a squad.

Dictating isnā€™t being a leader.

I lost track of the objective here. I hate some shit tho

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I hate that Samson steals my SG roll.

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Not a hot take, but cade spam and unfair fob sieges. Itā€™s tedious for Xenos, and not particularly exciting for marines either.

Many fob locations in game are surrounded by massive patches of ground that cannot be weeded, making it impossible for proper pressure to be applied in a siege. The west LZs of both chances claim and 624 are the most egregious examples of this. In order to siege either fob, Xenos either need a major numbers advantage, or a very skilled boiler empowered by equally skilled siegers.

In a meta sense there isnā€™t actually any incentive whatsoever for marines to be aggressive due to their scaling power over time, and they have every mechanical incentive to turtle in fob at the first opportunity. As someone who has played A LOT of games, I can say that rewarding passive gameplay is almost never a good idea.

Most everyone experienced in CM as well as the devs are aware of this stuff, but Iā€™d still say itā€™s probably the number one game design issue in my opinion since it has the highest consistent impact on round quality. Iā€™d argue itā€™s mostly a mapping issue, and slightly a metal economy issue.

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You donā€™t even play SG, you maint goblin >:(

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I hate you stealing my SG role, and RO demoted to a chump QM.

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guys this is cm13 hate thread
not a samson jack hate threadā€¦.

I hate that samson jack stole my SG roll

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